SGA canon question

[sholio]

Does anyone know whether Asgard beaming technology can go through the Atlantis shield?

I really can't remember an instance on the show where they've either a) beamed someone to/from the Daedalus through the shield, or b) mentioned specifically that they can't, but I may well be forgetting something.

Comments

[ariadne83]

On SG-1 we saw them beaming people out from inside Cheyenne Mountain, and in The Lost City they beam Jack *to* a shielded ship but the short answer is I don't think we know.

You can argue it either way: if you want them to be able to beam out through the shield, make the point that they were allies with the Ancients. If you don't want them to be able to, make the point that the Asgard were cautious about who they shared tech with.

[friendshipper.livejournal.com]

That works fine for my purposes, actually! It's obfuscated in technobabble anyway. *g*

[michelel72.livejournal.com]

I can't speak to canon, but if fanon is any help, I think the "Retrograde (http://www.ltljverse.com/watergate/seriesindex.htm)" series posits that beaming can't work through the shield -- it's used for a plot point. I don't know if she made that up or had a canon basis, though.

[friendshipper.livejournal.com]

It kinda makes sense both ways, actually ... and I don't think canon ever weighed in. It's really just a matter of picking something and sticking with it ...

[ldyanne.livejournal.com]

I'd have to watch the episode again to be sure (no, not that! ;-) but at the end of the Siege episodes, don't they wait until the shields have been dropped to beam John back to the city? I don't think they say specifically it's because of the shield that they wait, it could just as well have been because they were in the middle of a battle and they didn't have time or personnel to beam him back down.

[friendshipper.livejournal.com]

Oh hmm, I could watch those again! For what I needed, though, I just went with "can technically beam through shield, but there are technobabbly reasons why they can't in this specific case". Which I think works reasonably well with canon.

[ldyanne.livejournal.com]

LOL

Yes, that works!

[horridporrid.livejournal.com]

Okay, I went fishing through Gateworld's transcripts (and I'm really glad I did because I was about to thoroughly embarrass myself by giving completely wrong information -- now I don't have to slink away forever, covered in shame! *g*) and I think they can beam through the shields.

There's nothing definite, but in "Siege 3" when John beams back into the city, there's no mention of dropped shields. John goes to speak to Everett immediately after arriving and in his report says, "We've neutralized the Hive ships, activated the shields..."

A little while later (this is after Ford's beamed out of the water, up to the Daedalus and back into the Atlantis infirmary) Radek and Rodney discover the incoming Hive ships and tell everyone (including Caldwell, who beamed in). John's reaction, "At least the shield's up and running."

I think, given that there's not mention of the shields being dropped for any of that beaming, and given that John continually refers to the shields being up rather than merely available, that the shields were constantly up. Therefore, the Asgard beam does work through Ancient shielding.

(Asgard tech wins. Again. Ooh! You know, the evil!Asgard's ship passed right through the shield like it wasn't there, iirc.)

[friendshipper.livejournal.com]

Thank you very much! :)

I had actually already written the thing when I got this comment (it's the apocafic snippet) but this was really helpful to confirm that the direction I'd gone was, in fact, the right one. Thank you very much for looking up this information for me! And yes, I'd forgotten about the Asgard ship; that's an excellent point.

[horridporrid.livejournal.com]

I had fun looking for the information, I must admit. Happy memories of poor tired Rodney pushing himself that much further because Teyla asks him to and his city needs him; John being all tactical and knowledgeable about his enemy with Caldwell totally acknowledging his skills... good times. :)

[patk.livejournal.com]

Hm. Did you see "First Contact" and "The Lost Tribe"? In "First Contact" an enemy ship passes straight through Atlantis' raised shield. They don't "transport" in the sense you're meaning but they simply fly through. In "The Lost Tribe" we learn that the enemy is an Asgard-faction that broke of from the ones already knows thousands of years ago.

I don't know if that info helps in any way for whatever purpose you need it but I sure hope it does. :-)

[friendshipper.livejournal.com]

Thank you!

It's for the apocafic snippet, so I just went with something kind of vague, which it sounds like would work. :)