sholio: sun on winter trees (Highlander-Methos sword)
Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2011-03-28 11:50 am
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eeek eeek eeek SQUAIL ... I mean, Highlander 4x12-4x14!

Squee is back. Squee is SO VERY BACK. Come flail with me! (... assuming I haven't scared everyone away; I hope not!)




4x12 - The Blitz

Okay, up to this point, I haven't had any problem with Anne -- she's not a favorite of mine, but I like her all right. This episode, though? I hate, hate, HATE characters acting stupid to drive the plot, and I nearly skipped the whole episode because I was so annoyed with what the writers had paramedic!guy and Anne do at the beginning. If you run into an unstable structure to save people when you're the only person on the scene, then yeah, it's heroic. If you sneak into an unstable structure in the middle of a large-scale rescue operation after the person in authority tells you not to, without obtaining proper equipment or informing anyone, you're an IDIOT. Dear show, clearly you wanted to give me a scenario in which to be impressed with Anne's bravery and chutzpah, I presume, but WHY SO STUPID AAAAUGH.

I don't think it made much difference that she was pregnant -- others may disagree, but personally I don't believe that pregnant women have any less right than any other kind of person to choose to put themselves in dangerous situations or not, as long as they are in good enough physical shape not to unreasonably endanger themselves or others (though, if you're as pregnant as she obviously is/was, you might want to consider yourself less than physically fit for purposes of clambering around over rubble with things exploding overhead, I'M JUST SAYING). However, man or woman, pregnant or not, causing other people to have to put themselves in danger to rescue you while doing something that you're untrained and unequipped for, when the person in charge of the situation told you not to? That's not just dumb, but amazingly selfish. Or at least thoughtless.

One thing I will grant this episode is that they had paramedic!guy be the one to get squashed in the rubble, not Anne. And no ankle-twisting! I did appreciate that she was uninjured and given agency, er, for awhile anyway.

And I liked how you could hear Duncan's Scottish accent come out a little in the flashback where he and his girlfriend were dying in the rubble -- that wasn't my imagination, right? (Okay. Maybe it was. Not sure.)

Anyway. I'm not sure how you manage to make an episode with EXPLOSIONS and DISASTER and MORTAL PERIL and EMERGENCY CHILDBIRTH kind of dull, but, uh, they managed it somehow. *g*

The end was sweet, though, with Duncan's mother's name and then the house. And doubly so because he's not expecting to get anything back from it. I'm not sure if it's more of a paternal gesture or that of a lover -- that is, if he's doing it more on Anne's behalf or that of her child, or both -- but, oh, Duncan.



4x13 - Something Wicked

So, er ... this one started out making me think it was going to be a filler-ish episode (I seem to say that a lot) and then turned out to be a slow build into OMFG HOLY SHIT DUNCAN NOOOOOOO. The last 15 minutes had me staring at the screen with a hand over my mouth. I just. NO WORDS. The duel-to-the-(not)death with Richie, and Dawson being all cavalry-like with the gun, and the tying up, and the sword, and the trust, and Dawson is now officially the MOST AWESOME PERSON EVER, and, and, and just ... AAAAAAAA DUNCAN NOOOOOOO COME BAAAAAACK.

(I had forgotten it's about time for our regularly scheduled switch to Paris, though ... *g*)

Adrian Paul is totally rocking the evilness, I must say. And, and ... that bit! Where Duncan is tied to the thing! And Dawson's all, "Can't bring myself to kill you, can't leave you tied to the thing forever, so I'm going to untie you and trust you not to kill me because I'm (somewhat) convinced you're not 100% evil" .... eeeeeeeeek. BUTTONS. PUSHED. SO MUCH.

HOLY SHIT DUNCAN AAAAAAA *FLAIL*

*breathes*

There were a number of little adorable bits in this episode too. The scene with Richie and Joe in the bar! ("You're his Watcher, damn it. It's your job!" "Ehhh." *snerk*) The Greenwich Village flashback and greaser Duncan ... hahahahaha OMG. And I should probably have lots of thinky thoughts about how this show tries so very hard and earnestly to make the world of the Immortals a diverse one spanning many countries and continents and ethnicities, and sort of hits the mark some of the time and then misses it by a country mile now and then, but I'm still stuck on DUNCAN AAAAAAAAAAA and now I think I need to go watch the last ten minutes another few times. brb, flailing. aaaaaaaaaaa. *hyperventilates*

Well, I was planning to stop there, but that's a TERRIBLE place to stop, what with Duncan all evil-ish and tormented and on the run and stuff. SO. ONWARD TO PARIS MORE EPISODES.



4x14 - Deliverance

HOLY MOLY, SHOW.

*snaps out of squee-induced coma*

Um. Well, First of all ... oh DUNCAN. ;_; It's so hard seeing him like this, because he's such a sweet guy, so gentle in his, er, violent sort of way, and now he's all ... homicidal and cruel and manipulative and creepy. Having to live with all of this is going to kill him. DUNCAN NOOOOOOOO. *cries*

Okay, I was SO not expecting this to be a Methos ep, because I'd gotten the impression earlier that the Methos eps can more or less be watched independently of the rest of the series, and this one is sort of heavily dependent on what came earlier! I mean, surprised in a very GOOD way, but ... surprised! (And thank you ever so much, Netflix, for spoiling that particular surprise by giving me a preview screen of that bit of the guest stars when I skipped over the theme song. Oh well. 's what I get for trying to skip forward, I guess!)

For some reason it's hilariously awesome to me that Methos drives a -- what the heck is that, a station wagon?

And thinking about it, Methos is the perfect person to deal with the Duncan issue, because only the Watchers know he's in France, and among the Watchers, Methos is probably the only one who can deal with Duncan right now without instantly getting killed.

Sort of.

If only he weren't so bad at it. Come on, Methos! Even Joe knew to tie him up before he came around! And the fight at the psychotherapist's place? Made of awesome, true, and yet, WAY TO SUCK, METHOS. XD Methos's lack of battle competence will apparently never fail to make me grin and adore him, because it's not that he's bad at it and I think the show makes that clear -- it's just that he's up against people who are virtuosos at it. He's very experienced, but a little out of practice and lacking in that extra bit of talent that Duncan's got.

Duncan blowing through the stop sign in the stolen car cracked me up a lot. BECAUSE STOP SIGNS MEAN NOTHING TO ~*EVIL*~!

I spent a lot of this episode wondering how in the world they were going to fix this! Magic holy spring ... uh, not actually an option I'd realized was on the table, but whatever. Good thing Methos could still find it after all these centuries. XD And hee, that is TOTALLY the fight scene at the end of SGA's Doppelganger! Only, you know, ten years earlier, and with swords! All dressed in black, even ...

(I did feel terribly sorry for Adrian Paul in the cavern, being all wet when it was obviously below freezing! The water's steaming when he gets out, post-Quickening, but it wasn't steaming when he got in. *shivers on his behalf*)

Two scenes from this episode are among those that I remember from old vids -- the one where Methos holds out Duncan's sword wrapped in his clan colors, and a bit from the very end when Duncan's in the spring. And I'd actually thought both of those were much spoilerier than they turned out to be, because, well -- didn't expect them AT ALL in this episode until they happened, so can't be too spoilery, right? (Helpfully, at that point I could not tell Duncan and Methos apart in vids, so I had no clue who was in the water and who wasn't.)

RACHEL! Er, embarrassingly, I'd forgotten who she was until she mentioned that she's the one who brought the MacLeod Family Sword to Paris. I'd been wondering where Methos got it from so quickly. But yay! There is something very appropriate about the fact that Duncan's clan helped him out of this, even if a bit indirectly. And Duncan's hopelessly feeble attempt to thank Methos for saving his soul ... hahahahaha DORKS. *squishes them*

Bit o' squee at end: Alexa! She's still alive! Squeeeeeee! ... um, though up until that point I'd been too caught up in the action to actually remember that Methos is not working in Paris right now but traveling the world with Alexa. So he left his terminally ill girlfriend in Athens to rush off to Paris to save Duncan. Erm. Alexa being Alexa, I'm sure she was very sweet about it and all "Of course you have to go save your friend!" and is currently having a blast exploring Athens by herself. And eeeee, she's still alive, and presumably has now been able to see Egypt and more! Doomed they may be, but I adore Methos and Alexa an awful lot. And thank you so much, Show, for mentioning her even in passing, and not just leaving us to wonder about it like some other (*cough SGA cough*) shows are wont to do.

This episode! This SHOW! *clutches it to heart*


Edit: Oh! I just re-watched the end of 4x14 and something clicked -- Methos sort of sneaking up on Duncan in the pool with the katana held behind his back: he came in there prepared to kill Duncan if it wasn't good!Duncan that had won, and he knew the only way he was gonna be able to do it was if he got in a surprise shot before Duncan knew what hit him. (It's also a wonderful little Methos character bit, because that is exactly how he's lived this long: by being sneaky.) And that casts his little laugh of relief in a whole new light, because of what he'd been prepared to do a minute ago. SHOW!
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[personal profile] trobadora 2011-03-28 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! I love your squee so much. And I wish I had those eps available right now because I so want to watch them all! Joe is indeed fantastic; it's been ages since I saw that, but I still remember it well. :D

As for the unexpected Methos ep ... TOO IMPORTANT TO LOSE! :D :D :D

And hee, that is TOTALLY the fight scene at the end of SGA's Doppelganger! Only, you know, ten years earlier, and with swords!

Hee, I hadn't even thought of that, but that is SO TRUE. *giggles*

Even Joe knew to tie him up before he came around!

I think that makes sense, though. He wasn't trying to overpower him; he was trying to get through to him. (I mean, if tying him up and tossing him into the sacred spring could have worked, that would have been a lot easier, but ... in the end, Duncan had to save himself, you know?)

And I'd actually thought both of those were much spoilerier than they turned out to be, because, well -- didn't expect them AT ALL in this episode until they happened, so can't be too spoilery, right?

I'm really curious - what impression did you get from those clips? What did they make you expect? If you don't mind telling. :)
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-03-28 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Eeeeee, I've been waiting for you to get to these! That pair of eps is so completely ridiculous and contrived and wtf unexpected magic spring and ahhhh I love them~! Good guys going temporarily evil is always one of my major fiction kinks, and AP has so much gleeful fun being unabashedly fabulously ~WICKED~ (blowing through the stop sign, wahahahah) and Joe shooting Mac* but not being able to take his head (I <33333 Joe so much) and Methos who apparently just relies on being so adorable that even evil!Duncan won't kill him!

* (there's a great bit using that in the bloopers, won't spoil it but it's LOLOLOL. though it means every time I watch that scene now I crack up XD)
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-03-28 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
TOO IMPORTANT TO LOSE!

ahhhh that line is so cheesy but I looooove what he does with his voice when he shouts it. Mmmmmmmm.
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-03-28 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Also re: your ETA, yup, that's totally what's going on there with Methos...though I really wonder if he actually would've been able to do it; it's Duncan, after all...
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[personal profile] trobadora 2011-03-28 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a reason that line is quoted in fic so often. :D
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[personal profile] trobadora 2011-03-28 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
no, you're right, and I think you're quite right about all of this, particularly since Methos did have the foresight to take him to a church

Yeah, and he did almost get through to him for a moment; it just wasn't enough. (Yet.)

The clips: Oooh, that is so fascinating! I love that you spent so much thought on these clips, and what you got out of them. Even if it WAS wrong - it's not like you could have guessed dark quickenings and sacred springs! :D

I loved that they used the sword here to remind Duncan of his identity - that Methos in particular had that idea and went to get the sword! ♥ ♥ ♥

because I didn't recognize that it was Duncan tied to the thing, and I wasn't at all sure it was Joe

Okay, now that is really hilarious. :D :D :D
trobadora: (Methos - before chivalry)

[personal profile] trobadora 2011-03-28 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't know. Knocked him out and tied him up and sat on him until he could come up with another plan, sure. But actually killed him? I go back and forth on that. If he'd truly believed there was no way to save him ... hm.
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-03-28 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Duncan's Evil To-Do List: "Murder. Sexual assault. Ordinary assault. Grand theft auto. Minor traffic violations." With "kicking puppies" penciled in at the end.

XDXDXDXD x a million!

ZOMG you're right, QSM!Darien was totally channeling evil!Duncan - they've got the same completely random LOLWHUT sociopathy. (dangit, now I wanna rewatch I-man, too. One of the reasons I loved that show was how shamelessly often it punched that temporarily-evil button...)

I watched the scene with Duncan & Joe about a gazillion times. Which is about a gazillion less times than I watched the Methos scenes, but still...yeah, you're lucky you have it all on DVD now; they don't wear out like video tapes do (I am not even joking, there were a few bits of of HL tapes that started skipping from the rewinding/rewatching ^^;)
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-03-28 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
...you may be right. Is it bad that I kind of hope you are? Because I could stand to read one or two of such an AU...

(dangit I really need a Methos icon...)

[identity profile] tringasolitaria.livejournal.com 2011-03-28 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
*squealing* I confess, I've been biting my lip waiting for you to get to these episodes. :) So glad you enjoyed them. :D

Poor Duncan, and Richie, and Dawson saving the day! And then Methos coming to the rescue. :)

As far as Anne goes, I agree. Not a favorite, but neither do I have any particular issues with her. But I'd forgotten about her being so pregnant in that episode. ;) LOL!

(I had forgotten it's about time for our regularly scheduled switch to Paris, though ... *g*)

ROFL!

[identity profile] tringasolitaria.livejournal.com 2011-03-28 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's been several years since I watched that episode, so I could be totally wrong. But it seemed like Duncan was toying with Richie in that scene. The whole "cat with a mouse" thing. Drawing the fight out was part of the torment. I could be remembering it wrong though. But yes, Dawson was awesome. And so was Methos! :D
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[personal profile] zillah975 2011-03-29 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Methos is such a fascinating character to me, precisely because of what you're saying here -- he's not the best swordsman, he's the oldest living immortal because he's sneaky, not because he's Just That Good. I love that, SO MUCH. I think he's probably as ruthless in his own way as any villain, just he uses his powers for good. :)
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-03-29 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
XD I just knew the car scene would be one of the clips ^^
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-03-29 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I always interpreted the "too important" as too important to the world, not to Methos particularly - but still, that Methos believes that Duncan *is* that important - and yes, I agree that Methos believes that Duncan should be The One - friendship, slash, however you want to interpret it, it's special ^^
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-03-29 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhhh, Flowers for Hobbes...speaking of wearing out tapes...

Gnine & I rewatched I-man a few years back and it was definitely great fun the second time through - shame it got canceled, another seasons would've been entertaining.

(and hee, MacGyver - I totally missed that when it was originally on, but a number of years back reruns were airing at midnight and I caught the whole show. It's a shame I didn't see it when it was on because it totally would've grabbed me wee fangirl heart as well ^^)
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-03-29 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
I love how when watching vids of shows you don't know, you can still tell what scenes pinged the fan collective, by how many times they appear and the emphasis is put on 'em. ...of course in certain fandoms like Smallville, half the popular clips are taken totally out of context, but...

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