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SGA: 4x17- Midway
Hey, it's aired in some parts of the country, right? So I can post a reaction post now. (Yes, I did get the early iTunes version...)
My thoughtful and well-considered reaction to this episode goes something like this:
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
*flail*
*flail*
*flail*
*pant pant pant*
Maybe I'm just really easy for this show lately, or something. But, Carl Binder, how much do I love you. Let me count the ways:
- TEAL'C. RONON. TEAAAAAAAL'C. Okay, in this case, I'd seen some spoiler photos and clips of Chris and Jason fighting, so I kinda knew it was coming and was alraedy DYING to see "Midway" because I knew that would be the Teal'c episode and that he'd get some interaction with Ronon. But ... wow! I'm not sure if I can discuss this part rationally because I'm getting all fangirly again just thinking about it, and it was most of the episode! Chris Judge's hair, and Teal'c and Sam, and the Atlantis gymnasium turning into a pit fighting match while their military commander places bets on it (these must be the sort of times when Sam finds herself thinking "Why did I take this job again?"), and Teal'c and Ronon watching Earth TV together (!!!!), and Teal'c getting fed on by a Wraith ... and ... *flails some more*
- Presumed-dead-John, and worried Rodney calling him John, never gets old, is all I'm sayin'. I can see it a hundred times in a hundred different variations, and it's still good. :D Oh, and poor John! Trapped in a puddlejumper for two weeks with McKay, Bill Lee and KAVANAGH! It's a wonder he's still sane! (Also, Ronon's mischievous look when he's waking him up absolutely slays me dead with hilarity and squee.)
The other stuff really pales in comparison, but I have GOT to throw in a bucketload of writer-love for Teyla dealing with xenophobia, sexism and pregnancy-related prejudice all in one swoop! I think what made me squee is the actual recognition by the show that such things happen ... which is the point at which I can only decide that I must be really easy for this show, and, also, they had to do it through a fairly unlikable third-party character, but I'm just thrilled that they acknowledged it.
While not nearly as much of a squee! moment as seeing Bates two weeks ago, it was a neat bit of continuity to see Kavanagh again, and kind of tragically hilarious that they've taken to using him on the show exactly as he's used in fic (as the resident fuck-up physicist). And, hey, he's got a first name -- Peter! (You can read it on his uniform tag.)
I was really amazed and impressed at how calm Bill Lee was, considering that he was dealing with a Wraith about to kill him and had just seen a colleague fed on, too! I thought that Kavanagh was going to die. Thought they'd killed Walter, too, for a minute there when the stun-bomb went off.
Did anyone else notice that there were at least two different kinds of currency being passed around in the fight bets? I thought that was a neat touch, and the betting in general (along with Sheppard's complicity in it) was a fun glimpse of Atlantis on down-time. I love thinking of the Pegasus Galaxy as a frontier, and Atlantis as its own little society with its own rules. I love little moments when the show gives us the idea that it really might be this way.
On a serious(ish) note, they've lost the Midway station now, and after the almost-invasion I really can't see the SGC letting them build another one. I'm kinda glad, actually, although for a little while there it was kind of nice that you could do episodes like "Outcast" or "Miller's Crossing" without having to deal with how they got from Pegasus to Earth.
And I'm curious if "Todd" really betrayed them or if he was fed on and/or tortured into revealing information.
My thoughtful and well-considered reaction to this episode goes something like this:
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
*flail*
*flail*
*flail*
*pant pant pant*
Maybe I'm just really easy for this show lately, or something. But, Carl Binder, how much do I love you. Let me count the ways:
- TEAL'C. RONON. TEAAAAAAAL'C. Okay, in this case, I'd seen some spoiler photos and clips of Chris and Jason fighting, so I kinda knew it was coming and was alraedy DYING to see "Midway" because I knew that would be the Teal'c episode and that he'd get some interaction with Ronon. But ... wow! I'm not sure if I can discuss this part rationally because I'm getting all fangirly again just thinking about it, and it was most of the episode! Chris Judge's hair, and Teal'c and Sam, and the Atlantis gymnasium turning into a pit fighting match while their military commander places bets on it (these must be the sort of times when Sam finds herself thinking "Why did I take this job again?"), and Teal'c and Ronon watching Earth TV together (!!!!), and Teal'c getting fed on by a Wraith ... and ... *flails some more*
- Presumed-dead-John, and worried Rodney calling him John, never gets old, is all I'm sayin'. I can see it a hundred times in a hundred different variations, and it's still good. :D Oh, and poor John! Trapped in a puddlejumper for two weeks with McKay, Bill Lee and KAVANAGH! It's a wonder he's still sane! (Also, Ronon's mischievous look when he's waking him up absolutely slays me dead with hilarity and squee.)
The other stuff really pales in comparison, but I have GOT to throw in a bucketload of writer-love for Teyla dealing with xenophobia, sexism and pregnancy-related prejudice all in one swoop! I think what made me squee is the actual recognition by the show that such things happen ... which is the point at which I can only decide that I must be really easy for this show, and, also, they had to do it through a fairly unlikable third-party character, but I'm just thrilled that they acknowledged it.
While not nearly as much of a squee! moment as seeing Bates two weeks ago, it was a neat bit of continuity to see Kavanagh again, and kind of tragically hilarious that they've taken to using him on the show exactly as he's used in fic (as the resident fuck-up physicist). And, hey, he's got a first name -- Peter! (You can read it on his uniform tag.)
I was really amazed and impressed at how calm Bill Lee was, considering that he was dealing with a Wraith about to kill him and had just seen a colleague fed on, too! I thought that Kavanagh was going to die. Thought they'd killed Walter, too, for a minute there when the stun-bomb went off.
Did anyone else notice that there were at least two different kinds of currency being passed around in the fight bets? I thought that was a neat touch, and the betting in general (along with Sheppard's complicity in it) was a fun glimpse of Atlantis on down-time. I love thinking of the Pegasus Galaxy as a frontier, and Atlantis as its own little society with its own rules. I love little moments when the show gives us the idea that it really might be this way.
On a serious(ish) note, they've lost the Midway station now, and after the almost-invasion I really can't see the SGC letting them build another one. I'm kinda glad, actually, although for a little while there it was kind of nice that you could do episodes like "Outcast" or "Miller's Crossing" without having to deal with how they got from Pegasus to Earth.
And I'm curious if "Todd" really betrayed them or if he was fed on and/or tortured into revealing information.
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Loved Carter's referring to the military aspects of being a little low key at Atlantis, forgot her exact words.
Yes, to Teyla recognizing the sexism of the IOA and her little worried glance at John about re-joining the Team.....something tells me to Teyla..thats not written in stone.
The bets! Chuck the bookie and John taking his share despite the draw.
The Alpha males! The fight..the bonding in killing!
Having Rodney and John on wanted posters from the Genii is nothing compared to every Wraith knowing them on sight!
Loved, love, loved solider!Sheppard. Did he kill what...15 Wraith? Love seeing that side of him..sometimes I think it gets overlooked when Ronon's in a battle.
The two sided war so to speak...was fun and tense.
I could go on, but the end was made of pure WIN! Rodney calling him John..again..always under stress. Sheppard risking death to save them..though he must have been at death's door by the time he did get in that suit! Was he unconscious when the geek squad arrived..he didn't notice them for while.
The very, very end! Ronon's affectionate way of waking up Sheppard!! Sheppard asleep with the headphones?
Nothing but love for this.
You want to write a tag right??? You know the jumper missing time?
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I was really looking forward to the episode just knowing that it was going to spotlight Ronon and Teal'c, but it was better than anything I'd hoped for.
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I'm all caps an hearts right now, and OH, SHOW. ♥♥♥
It made me do pictures. XD (Um. 75~ screencaps, maybe...? I sort of lost count and I had to stop myself from taking more, because John did look incredibly fine doing the commando thing on Midway, and Ronon and Teal'c fighting, and and and OH show! ♥)
I didn't notice the "Peter", but I DID notice the different currencies, and it made me go OOOOH and love on them a little. As did the deck of cards & music player they've got cached away on the jumper, and the fact that Todd wasn't there playing the betrayer, so who knows how those other Wraith got that info, and and - everything else you said, too. ^___^
*flails some more*
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I think it's hilarious (but not too surprising) that our squee basically mirrors each other, except yours is much longer. And ILLUSTRATED! I adored your screencaps ... I need to go comment over there.
I really, really, really love this show right now. Oh, and I hadn't even *thought* about the cards and the music player obviously being part of the equipment on the jumper, which it would have to have been. That's a whole new squee right there!
(Yay that I'm not the only one who noticed the different sorts of currency! *Such* a nice touch!)
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:)
hmm... need new icon for flailing :)
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I was really looking forward to this episode, and even so, I loved it more than I was expecting. I think this one's tied with Doppelganger for my favorite of the season.
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And oh my God Teal'c. His arms. The fight. I mean--I am not sure what else happened? There was Teal'c and his arms and John and his shooting and I just--um.
You're telling me something else happened? Really?
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Yes! Ronon has arms, too!
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I was wondering, too. I have an irrational, squishy love for that character, I want to know what happened there. I hope we'll find out... they've been pretty good with continuity this season.
:D Oh, and poor John! Trapped in a puddlejumper for two weeks with McKay, Bill Lee and KAVANAGH!
Oh man, someone must write that fic!
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♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
*flail*
*flail*
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*pant pant pant*
UM YES THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH IT. AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SAID.
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This ep was JOY JOY JOY, you have covered all points, pretty much (except how we've watched the bits with Rodney saying 'John' about ten million times THEY DID PRESUMED DEAD!!! Even if only a few seconds of it wheeeee!!!)
Kavanagh stole Grodin's first name?! I missed that!
& John was taking yen. (...I didn't register it as 'foreign' currency at first, because I am so used to 1,000 yen bills, they look more normal to me than US dollars. Then I went waaaait a minute. ^^)
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I had to peek at Kavanagh's name tag to see if they'd given him a first name. And, yes, I did notice it was the same as Grodin. Poor Grodin!
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Like you, I thought the parts where Rodney thought John was dead were just wonderful, but I also loved the way he pulled himself together and got on with the job. It was more than his brave little toaster turn from last week, much more 'okay, so now I have to do Sheppard's job'. I love how we tend to think of him as slightly daft and amateur next to his team, then you put him with other scientists, and suddenly you see how good he is.
I thought Kavanagh fainting was such a great echo of 'Critical Mass'. I hadn't recognised him up to that point... And it has seemed this season that the writers are more aware of fanfic. Or maybe the fanfic writers are just prescient. But we've had so many themes/tropes that come up in fic - and I'm loving every minute.
Between this and Torchwood this week, I'm pretty much in fangirl heaven. Certainly if I don't stop soon, I'm going to die of squee :D
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I really love seeing Rodney pull himself together and do the soldier thing. I wouldn't want to see him do it all the time -- I really *like* that he still has trouble with it, and often misses the mark, because it just makes it all the more cool when he succeeds. And it is really neat seeing him next to the SGC scientists, seeing the contrast in how much experience he's picked up (completely by accident) while he's been in the Pegasus Galaxy.
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But, yes, it was a fun episode. And I'm overjoyed the Midway station is toast. Yes, that means less contact with Earth! :):) It was just too easy to toodle on back to earth for a burger and fries.
Peter? Good catch. I missed that but then I was too busy on the PC and watching sick doggie and the show.
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Oh, yes. And nice bit of continuity there too, don't you think? After all, if the Wraith do the Wraithy equivalent of the Vulcan mind meld as their modus operandi, wouldn't you think that the faces of the two men who have most destroyed their peace of mind , wouldn't be shared amongst them? I think that was fan ficced too, with a Wraith Queen recognizing John from when he killed her "sister" queen in someone's story.
My absolutely favorite moment, amongst many, is when Teal'c used Ronon's weapon, and then, practically visually salivating over it, said he would really like one like it and Ronon responded "get in line." I thought that Chris Judge and Jason Momoa hit those lines perfectly. I don't think they could have been delivered better by anyone, anywhere, anytime. It was as emotional as I've ever seen Teal'c, in his own inimitable way, of course. And Ronon just came across as "yeah, yeah, that's what everyone says" and "fat dead." Ronon has a bumper sticker tatooed on his chest that says, "you'll get my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. And you'd better make sure I really am dead. Like, cut off my head and burn it and my corpse and sprinkle the ashes on six different planets dead." That's really what that elaborate graphic on his arm is saying in Satedan symbolic language. Really. ~nods~ I'm waiting for iTunes to download so I can watch it again.
And did anyone think that maybe Bill Lee has been unconsciously picking up management and leadership tips from the Rodney McKay school of scientist wrangling? The only thing I wouldn't have minded seeing was a little bit of overt acknowledgment that Ronon and Lee had shared in a replicator hunt.
Fun, fun episode. I thought the writer and the actors really nailed the humor in this one. The characters remained the professionals they really are even while displaying gallows humor. Did I mention that I really liked this one. All hail Carl Binder, I'm so glad the writer's strike is settled.
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I was unspoiled for the ep, so when Teal'c showed up I made dolphin noises :)
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The betting ...! We know it happens (how many times has Rodney made a bet?) but it's nice to see it happening big time like this - and John trying to justify it to Sam ... LOL!!!
Oh, so much love for Bill Lee now - I'm really warming up to him recently - and LOL when Kavanagh faints! Yeah, flashback to Critical Mass and continuity! And resulting in my favourite line for this episode (paraphrased as I don't have a transcript available!):
"We made a terrible mistake ... we revived Kavanagh!" ROTFL!!
And I noticed the "John"s again from Rodney! Yay! Glad they're keeping this development up. The look on Rodney's face when he thinks John is dead ... poor McKay, you can almost hear the 'another friend dead' going through his head.
But the ending, oh the ending! John's in the cockpit with the doors shut and a headset on! He lasted about a day!!! And poor Rodney stuck in the back compartment (respecting John's need to be alone, 'cos he opened the bulkhead doors and so John hadn't locked them out. Hmm, did John threaten him/them or was it Rodney respecting his need and keeping the others out? Oh, missing scenes, tags...).
I love how Ronon wakes John up - the look on his face! And John's "I was going to stun myself" (or something along those lines) made me crack up again!!
I think if I was stuck with Lee and Kavanagh I'd seriously think about stunning myself - especially with Rondey there, as surely that wasn't the first time he told them to shut up (or if it was, then wow, he's getting better at that tolerance thing!) - and yes, I know how hypocritical it sounds for RODNEY to be telling others to shut up 'cos they haven't stopped talking...!!! Snerk!
And I too loved the bit with Teyla and the issues it brought up - it's good that they addressed them, however it was done.
The Midway station is gone ... no more quick trips to Earth. I liked that they could travel back and forth for a while, but I'm glad they haven't left them able to do that for too long as it would have gotten too easy and convenient eventually.
Well, gotta try and write more on my ficathon story (only 300 words done so far) - any plot bunnies from Midway will have to wait. Or at least, that's the plan, but who knows?!!!
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SGA: 4x17 - Midway
Season 4 rocks so bigtime, I can't stand it! Squeeeee! Squeeeee! Squeeeee!
Love, max
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Loved Ronon waking Sheppard up. So much love...
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And I guess because I was prepared for it, I didn't feel the tension in the match between Ronon and Teal'c. But I did feel it when Sheppard was running around shooting Wraith and running away from them, all alone just like against those Genii troops. It was almost scary because he was so slight and vulnerable and at the same time so very strong.
And of course I loved the humour of them being stuck in the jumper for unknown number of days (FIC!!!!!). Ronon's scene with John is priceless. *g*
Particularly I laughed so hard at the obvious: Rodney -- of all people -- saying, "ENOUGH ALREADY. We've been stuck here for god knows how long and you haven't shut up, either of you! You just keep TALKING! Talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk!"
ROFL.
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But just how DID John get into that spacesuit? LOL.
Shep
(Anonymous) 2008-03-01 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Shep