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Show ... oh, show.

I didn't write down specific episode reactions this time, so I just have a sort of general squee. After the heaviness of the 2-parter, the humor episodes ("The Ransom of Richard Redstone" and "The Stone of Scone") were a great change of pace. The latter in particular ... omg, SHOW. *helpless giggling*

And "Forgive Us Our Trespasses" -- oh, I love this show and these characters SO MUCH. Amanda and Methos going all out to keep their idiot friend from getting himself killed! Character-arc and thematic continuity with the Horseman episodes! The plot even tied back to Sean Burns' death in Deliverance (particularly poignant in this episode, since it was Methos that dragged Duncan back from the dark side that time). Oh, Duncan, your friends love you so much, you dork. And yet, I can see where he's coming from, too -- he wouldn't be the person they love if he wasn't having to struggle with this burden of guilt, this conflict of ethics.

I also loved that the show not only continued to deal with the emotional fallout from the Horsemen arc, but was fairly subtle about it. Clearly Duncan and Methos are still struggling to repair the trust they used to have, but they're trying. The "forgiveness" line at the end ... ouch, but also, awwww. (Wasn't really sure how to read Duncan's noncommittal reaction to that ... I think he recognizes Methos' point, especially after this episode, but is still having to work through it a bit. But he's getting there.)

Also, since I have the DVDs now, I've started watching the bonus scenes on some of these -- and, hahahaha, the outtake for "Forgive Us Our Trespasses", with Elizabeth Gracen and Peter Wingfield cracking up in the bedroom scene ... "Methos, he'll die!" "Then we'll have our own show!" THEY ARE SO ADORABLE. ♥

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Stone of Scone is I think my 2nd favorite humor ep after Till Death. "The same as they did to Guy Fawkes - hung, drawn, and quartered!"

--But it's still not as funny as the bloopers. "Then we get our own show!" XDXDXD

And yes, "Forgive Us..." is such a fantastic follow-up to the Horsemen eps - plus Methos with the gun and "You are such a pain in the arse." Gotta love his solutions to thorny problems by way of firearms ^^

Stone of Scone was awesome. (Although, thanks a bunch, Terry Pratchett ... I keep mistyping "Scone of Stone" and I can't seem to make it stop. XD)

Haha, one thing about watching the outtakes .... Methos tends to look kind of amused by the world, which works really well for his character, but I'm starting to get the impression that the reason why he looks that way is because Peter Wingfield is generally right on the verge of either cracking up himself or sending one of the other actors into a giggle fit. (There's one bit in the bonus stuff for "Revelations 6:8" that made me giggle helplessly, where he's cueing the other actor in the insane asylum scene by paraphrasing his own lines -- "We want the fuckin' crazy guy, okay? We know he's fuckin' crazy but we want him anyway" and just grinning the whole time, and he juuuuuust barely makes it back to a straight face when the cameras start rolling.)

All the actors have such a lovely rapport with each other. It's another show like SGA where it's obvious that the actors all really like each other and enjoy working with each other. That translates so beautifully to the screen ...

And oh, I love so much that they're so consistent about doing emotional follow-up episodes. I was wondering if we'd get any more to the Horsemen arc, and of course we did! And Methos shooting him in the back, HEEEEE~! ... I totally did not see that coming, but it was so, well, him ...

I keep mistyping "Scone of Stone" and I can't seem to make it stop.

Hahahaha, so glad that's not just happening to me! :D

I just love Methos's speech so much: "rage and compassion, love and hate, murder and forgiveness." ♥ ♥ ♥

(I have more to say about that ep. but I'm in a bit of a hurry - will come back later!)

That's such a lovely scene. So much subtlety, so many undercurrents. I love in general how the theme of regret and forgiveness and redemption is carried through this episode, woven into the characters' words and actions.

Duncan and Methos aren't really there yet, but they're on the road to getting there.

You can feel the tension between them, and all the unresolved issues bubbling up, but you can also tell they're still close. That scene is played really well, on both sides. The way I read it, Duncan initially seems almost amused by Methos's interference, much like his reaction to Amanda. And then all the Horsemen stuff bubbles up, and Duncan shuts down. Not so much in a "I can't forgive you" kind of way so much as "don't pull that into this". And Methos isn't exactly keen on the parallels either because he knows it's not going to help any here, but it's there between them whether they want it or not.

Obviously I like the parallels between Amanda and Methos, and the way they look at things - and how Duncan sees the both of them. I almost feel that realising that parallel makes it easier for Duncan to grasp who Methos is? I didn't read it as a brush-off in the end myself, although I've seen other people describe it that way. I think Duncan gets it well enough in the end.

Oh, and also - another favourite line: "It's Tuesday. He doesn't take heads on Tuesdays." :D

And this, of course: "I'm a student of human nature." & "I love good guys." (That scene's yet another call-back to Methos and the whole offering-Duncan-his-head thing ... great stuff!)

Oooh those quotes! I love them :D

I love those two humor episodes. :) Stone of Scone, in particular, is probably my favorite humor episode in the whole series. I'm giggling now, just thinking about it. :D

"Methos, he'll die!" "Then we'll have our own show!"

ROFL! I'd actually forgotten that. That's hilarious. :D

"Stone of Scone" was completely awesome! (Which is not to say that the other one wasn't -- I laughed so much throughout: "I'm not a guest! You kidnapped me! Twice!") And that outtake is just the BEST. The way they keep cracking each other up ... I think I could just keep watching that particular outtake forever. :D

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Aren't the extras great? At the LA Walkabout Peter and Adrian were onstage while they showed FUOT so they could talk about it. And they both laughed their butts off when Methos shot Duncan and said he was a pain in the arse.

Heeee~! I really get the impression from watching the extras that the actors really like each other, and like working together.

And that was an awesome scene, all the way around. :D

I love their interactions so much -- the way Amanda innocently asks Methos to just go and tell Duncan that he's not a bad guy, not knowing about the Horsemen. I love that she doesn't automatically know about them, that it's a pretty big secret from Methos' past still.

I love the way Duncan reacts in the gardens, his almost half smile, and then the brushoff when Methos is talking about forgiveness. It hurts, but it's great continuity.

I love that Methos shoots him in the back to save his life! It's sooo him.

Yep yep, I agree with all of this! I really loved that they kept in mind that Amanda doesn't know, so that was coloring her interactions with both men in the episode, and theirs with each other when she was in the room.

The scene in the gardens is great, as is Methos's little comment about forgiveness at the end of the episode. Like you said, it hurts, but it also fits together; I love that the show didn't just have them go right back to being how they were before. They're still dealing with the fallout. And it's obvious that having Duncan's forgiveness really matters to Methos.

Yeah I love that Methos wants it from Duncan -- maybe Duncan has nothing to do with what happened 3000 years ago, but he can forgive Methos for the manipulation and putting his life in danger.

I also really like the scene in the garden because of the way Duncan behaves: he originally starts to walk away, then turns back to Methos as though he wonders if he should be turning his back on him, but then finally turns his back and starts to leave (and gets shot *g*). It's such an interesting little tid-bit, with Duncan obviously wondering how much he can trust Methos.

Hee, aren't the bloopers spectacular? The "Then we get out own show" is one of those other lines that we quote a lot...randomly. I also love that in the later outtakes they both just keep laughing. The one that Amanda is going "He might DIE Methos...bahahahahaha" and can barely finish the line she's laughing to hard is just hilarious! ^_^

And yeah, I like how the show doesn't have Duncan and Methos' relationship back to perfect but that they're working on things, that they *have* to work on things.

The pure adorable in that particular set of outtakes is through the roof. I could watch it all day. SO CUUUUTE. XD I think what makes it even better is that it's such a serious scene, and they're talking about a friend's potential death, and they cannot stop laughing. The sheer adorable! (She must have wanted to kill him for getting them off on that tangent, though. But ... SO CUTE.)

And, yeah, Duncan and Methos ... the show is so good with the follow-through on that. I love that it's not really made into a big deal in the episode, but woven throughout the fabric of it. And I love how much having Duncan's forgiveness matters to Methos, too.

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