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Okay, the Torchwood teaser makes it official: Torchwood is slash, of the crack variety. The UTTER CHEESE of it all! I still don't know if I'm going to be watching it ... probably I'll wait a few episodes to gauge the fannish reaction and see if it's worth it.

Barnes & Noble was having a sale on DVDs (buy 2, get one free) when I went in to pick up the next two seasons of NCIS (shut up. *g*) and I got the package set of Series 1 & 2 of Red Dwarf. I'm kinda surprised how little I remember the early episodes, since I remember the later ones so well -- but I guess it's been ten or fifteen years since I watched those early ones. Still as much fun as I remembered, though. Still got a wee crush on Craig Charles. (If only he was in something other than Coronation Street now, I would be all over it.) And whatever happened to the rest of them?

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Aw, Red Dwarf, I miss it *sniffles.*

It's such a fun show! I was a little worried that I'd find the special effects off-putting after get spoiled by the much better f/x on the shows I've been watching lately, but they aren't -- it's supposed to be silly, after all. And the characters are so much fun.

Craig Charles is on Coronation Street now? Wow. I quit watching when Mike Baldwin started to get Alzheimers....

Apparently so. I haven't seen ... in fact, I probably couldn't if I wanted to, since I don't think soaps go up for download like other shows, and don't come out on DVD.

Torchwood is fun, mindles, pop candy. I don't mind watching it... but I don't go crazy or search endlessly for it. I like Jack... but don't really care for a number of the secondary characters. I actually like Jack's reactions/actions better when he's in Dr. Who rather than with his team in torchwood

I watched about an episode and a half, and was seriously underwhelmed. I think my biggest problem was that I didn't really like anybody. I'm all about the fun, cheesy brain candy when the characters are fun (like Red Dwarf, not exactly the most intellectual show ever produced by the BBC) but in Torchwood I just found them whiny and unlikeable ... including Jack.

That's a large part of my problem with it - I found most of the characters annoying.. and Owen purely obnoxious!

Here here!

I think that's the running secret wish of a lot of TW fans - how to kill off Owen. :-p

Robert Llewellyn is now a presenter for Scrapheap Challenge (which was remade as Junkyard Wars in the US). Chris Barrie had a successful sitcom called The Brittas Empire and was Lara Croft's butler in the two Tomb Raider movies. Danny-John Jules was in Blade II but I've not seen him in anything since although I hear he's in a new TV show over here. I have no idea about Norman Lovett but imdb shows he seems to be picking up roles here and there. I am sure Barrie, Jules and Lovett have had theatre work too, I seem to remember hearing about that or seeing it mentioned somewhere.

Thanks for the info! That's interesting with Robert hosting Scrapheap Challenge, since Craig hosted Robot Wars for a number of years. The geek is strong in these ones ... *g*

And Chris Barrie also presented shows called Massive Machines and Massive Engines (which air on channels like Discovery). As Craig said during he and Chris' stage talk at Collectormania GMex, "How come so many of the Red Dwarf alumni have ended up presenting anorak shows?!" :lol:

So, you're getting seasons 2&3 of NCIS? *grins widely* how'd you like the first one?

I quite liked it! We're actually one (or two?) discs into season 2 now, and I jumped ahead (without telling the hubby ... shhh! *g*) and watched "SWAK" because I'd seen a couple of clips in music videos on Youtube and just couldn't wait 'till we got there.

And I, er, started writing a crossover with SGA. I've written a couple thousand words so far -- I just can't help myself.

And I, er, started writing a crossover with SGA. I've written a couple thousand words so far -- I just can't help myself.

YAY! :-):-):-)

Yay! You write good:) BTW apparently they are going to do a kids version of Torchwood without the explicit stuff. They'll still have the kissing.

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Awww, SWAK! That's actually the first episode I watched, even knowing that I was supposed to get to know and care for those characters for two seasons before seeing it, that I would miss a hundred tiny details and everything- because, dude, what's more h/c than *that plot*, right?

You've been inspired towards NCIS/SGA? But that's perfect!!

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee~! *hyperventilates a little*

Torchwood. Guh. Yes. They do get - explicitly slashy. Have before, but this. Is... special. And the clip - oh, they're torturing us with the sweet anticipation!

I miss Red Dwarf! ♥

It's total crack! Torchwood/Buffy slash! *g* With slo-mo running into each other's arms and mood flames and that fight scene ... craaaaaaack!

I suppose I haven't really given Torchwood THAT much of a chance (the only full episode I've seen is the finale) but I just can't get into it. I really don't like the characters at all. I think that's why I want to back off and see how other people respond to the first few episodes of the new season -- if they crank up the teaminess, then I'm there, and if it goes on in the same vein as the past season, I doubt if I'll be watching it.

My fond hope for season 2 of Torchwood is that there will be more teaminess, less angst, and more going for the whole crack thing, and not taking themselves so seriously all the time. From the teaser, it seems like that hope might not be futile! The team in the last bit of the clip - "But it's more fun when he's around" *nods all around* - that was just... awww. That's funny, and teamy, and totally in keeping with what I want to see! And the kissing/fighting - so over the top that it's beautiful!

Ahh, those two minutes are making me happier than season 1 ever did. *g* (In other words - I will totally understand if you pass on it!)

Red Dwarf is the ultimate crack, and so damned brilliant. I haven't seen all the seasons myself. I did see on a blooper reel on You Tube where he flipped his hair over and peered through it, saying, "This view looks familiar." Couldn't believe it!! I was rolling. He's so cool. And Chris Barrie is just adorable. Did you ever see the USA version that, thank god, never panned out? *shivers*

I've loved Torchwood from the get-go. Can't wait until the new eps.

Trying to write my first SGA fic in well over a year. I've totally lost McKay's voice. *whimpers* He's different from the way he was when I was writing SGA, and I can't figure out his reactions anymore. Not quite as arrogant and snarky. Still with a big head, but more humble. That's hard to write in him!

Red Dwarf is just awesome; there's never really been anything like it before or since. I haven't seen anything of the proposed USA series, but I read about it, and it sounds utterly AWFUL. Talk about the studio suits not getting it! And the chemistry between the cast, the wonderful back-and-forth between Chris and Craig, really made the show work.

It's SO hard to switch back and forth between writing in different fandoms! I'm poking around with an NCIS/SGA crossover and I'm having so much trouble getting the voices of the NCIS gang -- they keep turning into the SGA characters, or else end up flat and uninteresting.

If it's easier for you to write season 1-2 era McKay, you could always try that and then tone him down at the rewrite stage if he's coming across as too in-your-face. He is a lot mellower, but I tend to forget just how much until going back and watching some of the really early episodes. I think I still tend to write him that way, too.

That's a good idea. Funny thing is, I had to sort of train myself to write him as snarky, because I'd never written a bitchy character at that point. Now I have to backtrack. LOL!

Chris and Craig...magical. I saw a tiny clip of the US version, it was absolutely horrific. I was beyond embarrassed.

Bwah! Did you see the one where James Marster's character hits on a poodle? Made of awesome, right there.

Hee, Red Dwarf!

Hee! No, I haven't. Will have to look for it. :D

LOL! I don't think it's possible for a show to make a more ~~transparent~~ compelling bid for slasher viewership. Not only the slashiness, but it's pretty much a pseudo-crossover with one of the most iconic characters on recent TV. When they start hitting each other after the smooch, it's so very you-know-who. And yeah, the cheese!

I'm debating whether or not to watch the eps where a certain Doctor Who character appears. Torchwood ruined Jack for me (although he got better as soon as he was back on the other show) and I really, REALLY don't want it to ruin her for me too. She's one of my favourite characters in recent memory. I might ask my friends who watch Torchwood (precisely because they think it's terribly written and hence a laugh a minute) to watch it first and find out whether they've turned her into another of their bitchy characters. I really wouldn't want to watch that, but on the other hand, if she stays true to what she's always been so far, she could "save" Torchwood for me.

And Red Dwarf was utterly awesome in it's heyday. I was a bit disappointed in the last series or two, but before that it rocked my world. In fact, I think my "friends page" on LJ is stilled named after a quote from it. Hee!

Heh. I had actually noticed that quote ... and, sad to say, I even know which episode it's from!

I know what you mean about being a little nervous about the Torchwood episodes with that character. I think I'm gonna just wait and let other people "pre-watch" the show for me. After the Doctor Who Christmas episode, I'm debating whether to put that one on the "wait and see" list, too; I guess I'll see how the first couple of episodes go.

I gave up on Torchwood after the first two episodes. My main problems with it were a) the storylines, which weren't that great and at times had the characters doing really *dumb* stuff, b) the characters, who I'm afraid I found mostly annoying, wet and annoying (Gwen) or just downright repulsive (Owen) and c) the "shock" factor, which was just trying too damn hard - I know RTD has his little agenda and all and I've nothing against portrayal of same sex relationships or kissing or whatever on TV.. if it's done well and is a seamless element of the plot or of a character; this wasn't. To me, it just felt like they were metaphorically shouting, "Hey! Look at us! Look how controversial we are! We've got lesbian kissing! Wooo!" The show was marketed originally as being a "darker", more edgy series within the Doctor Who universe and it just felt to me like they were trying to hard to be dark and edgy and sexual, to the detriment of plot and characterisation (e.g. the scene in, I think, the first ep where Gwen ends up snogging the female prisoner and her colleagues just watch on the CCTV and make lewd comments - that's just DUMB! They know what the woman is, they know what effect it has and they see their colleague in what could be very real danger (and, at the least, behaving inappropriately with someone who is a prisoner and a threat) and do they rush to her aid? No. They treat it as a joke!)

My sister assures me that the show got better as the season went on but it was too late for me - those first two eps had turned me off. I haven't seen the promo for Season 2 yet though I was thinking of giving it a look.. the addition of James Marsters is an added draw. Really not sure though.

I loved Red Dwarf - my sister and I watched it right from episode 1 and it was one of the best shows around at the time.. and probably still is the best SciFi comedy ever made. You can tell a show is iconic when it has invented its own language! :D

I did actually see the US pilot they made - I think they showed it at the Star Trek/Red Dwarf con my sister and I went to in 1993 - and BOY it was dreadful! The one good line in it was the scene where Lister, freshly out of stasis, wanders the ship with Holly trying to convince him that everyone else is dead.. and once he finally grasps the concept that he's been in stasis for thousands of years and everyone is dead, his first comment is, "My baseball cards must be worth a fortune! :)

I never really saw enough of Torchwood to quite figure out why it was supposed to be "dark" and "edgy". More like "pretentious" and "wanky". *g*

On the one hand, I think it's pretty cool that Torchwood exists at all. I mean, let's face it -- there's no real shortage of hetero bed-hopping and cheating and pretty people acting like hormone-addled idiots on TV; it's awfully nice to get some equal-opportunity action on that front. On the other hand ... bed-hopping, cheating and general idiocy are not my cup of tea. *g* And there's no shortage of things to watch on TV; I'm not really inclined to waste my time on a show that hasn't done much to win my love.

I'll just cuddle up with Red Dwarf and NCIS instead.

Yup. That was pretty much my problem. I don't really watch those kind of shows about straight people and the supposed "shock value" or "edginess" of seeing corresponding behaviour on a homo/bi-sexual scale was just not enough to hold my interest.

I'm quite happy right now with SGA, House, NCIS, SPN and now Moonlight. My only problem is... I don't watch anything on TV anymore! I'm watching all the shows I love on the US schedules! :lol:

Went and watched the Torchwood trailer. Below are my reactions, in chronological order

First: Westerns are back, and they're set in Cardiff.
Second: Jack versus Spike shootout at O.K. Nightspot!
Third: Well, several Angel fans have been telling me that Spike was gay for years!
Fourth: The TW team should trade in their SUV (seriously, how conspicuous is that car anyway?!) for a black cab. I find them much more amusing in that environment.
Fifth: Ohhhhhh! We didn't see a single sight of the pterodactyl! *pouts*

While I don't love TW like I do Doctor Who, I enjoy it for its vaguries and choose to pretend that TW Jack is actually a parallel dimensional version of the DW Jack. Owen maybe a rude, obnoxious twat; but for some reason, I love him.

LOL, I like the idea of TW!Jack as an AU version. Doctor Who is, after all, one of those canons where we know that alters of the characters exist. It all becomes clear.

Okay, you said you were curious as to why I stopped watching? Mostly it was because I ran out of time, but also because they had started to "get rid" of my favorite characters. That, and I don't get that channel anymore-plus I don't have the money to buy the dvds. Altho, now I kind of wish I could watch it again.

Have never seen Torchwood, it didn't strike me as my type of sci-fi for some reason. *shrugs*

Of course, Red Dwarf is one of the best comedy sci-fi's ever! Though I also love Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (both the original radio series, the BBC very low-budget TV show and, of course, the film!).

I have never seen any comedy sci-fi so far that lives up to those two (I was very disappointed by 3rd Rock from the Sun and also by a recent BBC series that's name escapes me at the moment) - though I have hopes for the Starcrossed bits in David H's film when it eventually gets released over here!

Hmm, I wonder if my friend Jayne can still quote huge chunks of Red Dwarf? I used to be able to, but have forgotten most of it... Oh well *sighs*

Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast...

Red Dwarf is just fantastic! I love the Hitchhiker's books, but have never been impressed by any of the filmed versions -- probably because my mental images from the books are so vivid that nothing's ever really matched up to it.

There are a few other sci-fi comedies that I like -- Buckaroo Banzai is one that I have a particular soft spot for (it's just so WEIRD). But really, Red Dwarf is a high water mark in SF comedy; there's never been something quite like it, before or since.

*headdesk* the books, of course I liked the books as well, how could I forget them!!! Never heard of Buckaroo Banzai - maybe it didn't make it over the water? Or else it slipped under my radar somehow - and I haven't found it online anywhere! I'll keep my eye out for it though - if it's weird than I *might* just like it!

And how could I forget A Town Called Eureka? Okay, not a comedy per se, but very light, quirky and definitely entertaining!! I think my fav character is S.A.R.A.H!! (Ah, but then I always had a soft spot for K.I.T.T in Knightrider... and Data in ST:TNG... do we spot a theme here?!! LOL!)

One day I'm going to give NCIS a try - it's got Ilya Kuryakin in it, after all... um, sorry, I mean David McCallum...!

I went in to pick up the next two seasons of NCIS

Hah. *g*

(It's good, innit.)

Heh. Yes. I'm addicted -- and my partner is as addicted to it as I am, which is a nice change from me always having to pester him to watch more episodes with me!

I've just gotten season 1 from Amazon this week - I think I've seen pretty much all of Season 2-4 now thanks to FX and Channel 5 but there's quite a few of Season 1 I've yet to see.. the the DVDs suddenly dropped in price to £17.97 last week so I ordered em sharpish! :D

Lucky you! I spent $40 for mine! *winces* Kinda wish I'd held out for a sale.

:lol: £17.97 is $40 or near enough! The RRP for the NCIS Season 1 boxset in the UK is £49.99! That's c.$100!!!

DVDs in the UK are expensive!

Durrrrr! The font I use in Firefox doesn't do symbols (all I get are question marks), so I just saw the number by itself and my brain translated to American dollars. Pardon my Americacentricism! *g*

Even so, I'm not sure if the conversion is still 1-for-2; I thought the dollar had come down a lot more than that.

Nope. It's been around 1-2 for a while. Currently 1 pound = 1.96 USD according to xe.com.

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