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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2007-01-09 09:53 am

3x16: The Ark

Did this one make anyone else think of NotTasha's fic Among the Stars? Team trapped on a space station that's venting atmosphere, separated by bulkheads and able to communicate only with their radios! HEE. Of course the actual plot was quite different, just the basic premise was similar, but it made me grin.

In a lot of ways this felt like a throwback to the action/suspense episodes of the first season. I remember thinking, when we started watching the show, that their action episodes were the most successful ones, with the plots falling down just a trifle when they'd do the more story-driven episodes. Over time, I think I've come to enjoy the "slow" ones more; I don't know if that's because they're doing them better now, or because we tend to get more "character moments" in the slower episodes, or what. However, it's really nice to see that they can still do tense, fast-paced, "OMG we're all gonna die" action well. I was just talking on Derry's LJ about the need for balance on the show, and this episode was perfect to balance out the more humorous and "talky" episodes that we've had lately. In fact I'd love it if the show kept up a mix like this -- a couple funny or character-focused episodes, offset with a couple of fast-paced ones.

I really liked the episode; unlike the last couple, it didn't really have any huge "squee and rewatch a dozen times" moments, but there were lots of fun parts and a few sweet ones. Loved Rodney's "We don't leave people behind!" to Lorne, and Rodney and Sheppard trying to say goodbye in that emotionally-stunted-yet-touching way that only they can do so well. (There was a certain lack of concern for Teyla on Rodney's part in that scene, IMHO, but on the other hand she's out of sight and mind at the moment, while a certain Colonel is going all kamikaze AGAIN.) All the banter was too much fun, including Teyla and Ronon's long-suffering reaction to the usual bickering in the beginning -- and I just loved how they dial up poor Weir, only an hour late for their check-in, with this massive, abbreviated tale of woe; good thing she's such a diplomatic person, because you can just imagine her thinking, "Everything was FINE the last time I talked to them! How did they screw up THIS badly THIS fast?!"

One of the things I've always loved about the Stargate shows is how they find new ways to use old technology, and when they find a new thing to do with it, they remember. This episode's case in point -- turning the cloak into a shield and extending it to the space station. And I liked that they didn't waste a lot of time explaining it to the viewer ("Hey, just like we did when we rescued old so&so!") -- it's just very matter-of-fact. I also liked the way they had the LSDs strapped to their arms, freeing up their hands for other stuff. Clever!

Another way that this episode provided nice balance is that all of the team got to do something -- emphasis on Sheppard and McKay, of course, but the four-way interplay was neat. (Oh, and if I may be shallow? Sheppard in the welding goggles -- ROWR! *grin*)

Oh, and it's been nice to see Lorne so much lately! I'm not a huge Lorne fan the way some people are -- not that I don't like him, just that I don't really feel like I've seen enough of him to have that much love for him -- but because of his history with the team and his friendly-affectionate way of relating to them, it's a lot of fun when he's the one who gets to come and rescue them. I'm always happy to see his name in the credits.

[identity profile] with-apostrophe.livejournal.com 2007-01-09 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm the many faces of John Sheppard.

[identity profile] klostes.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Funnily enough, the reviews on Gateworld are very negative. I enjoyed the episode very much, and I agree that it's a return to the types of action episodes we had in first season. Lots of fun, and I thought the plot twists were well done. Teyla chewed her scenes up, and I think I like competent!leader John the best of all his faces.

Oy. Now back to ancient history...

[identity profile] with-apostrophe.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
They didn't like it? Well I'm not going anywhere near there then. I loved it!

Ooh, what Ancient History?

[identity profile] klostes.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Well, reading through it's about 1/3 hated, not quite 2/3s liked. The writer is there, though, and fielding questions, so that's kind of cool.

Uhm, this quarter I'm studying European Prehistory and Ancient Greece. Fun stuff, (*whining*) but they expect me not to just read the material, but study and write about it! ;-)

[identity profile] with-apostrophe.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Cool icon. Is it from Lascaux, or Altamira? Or neither....?

That kind of History is a bit TOO old for me. I was/am a Medievalist, though I went as early as c300AD. No modern, however. Nothing beyond 1648, adn the only time I stepped out of Europe was when studying the Crusades.

[identity profile] klostes.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
It's Lascaux. Funnily enough, I think history pretty well ends about 1064. My favorite is ancient Britain specifically, Bronze/Iron Age Northern Europe in general, up to early Medieval. And ancient textiles in any place. Ancient Greece has never really interested me, but it's the elephant that almost everyone has to have a passing knowledge of, so I'm stuck studying at least some of it.

I take it your degree is in Medieval history?

[identity profile] with-apostrophe.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes! Technically, it's Medieval and Modern, but I didn't do any Modern. Well we can both make fun of the Modernists. I like to tease them adn tell them that they're studying Politics!

But then Archaeologists think we're soft, and Geologists make fun of all of us!

1064 - because of the soon following Norman Conquest? And that's what? Pre-'The Peace of God' movement in Europe? Most of my knowledge starts c1100.

PS(I've been to Lascaux. Well Lascaux II, not the original!)

Bed time.

[identity profile] klostes.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
OOoh, let's play Mock the Modernists! I'm down with that. Almost as much fun as mocking the pre-Law majors!

And yeah, I was thinking about a minor in Archaeology, but the department chair is basically of hte opnion historians are wannabe wusses so I'm not even going to try to deal with him. He's a great teacher in his field, but otherwise? Meh.

Did I say 1064? Silly me. I meant 1066. Yup, the Norman invasion of England is when history ends. Period. ;-) I don't know enough European history in the Middle AGes to know what was going on there.

And I am JEALOUS if you've been to either Lascaux! Only reason I could come up with to actually visit France willingly. ;-) But I've been to Calanais, and Dun Carloway (see icon).

[identity profile] with-apostrophe.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 10:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so bad. I start with 'that's politics' and work up to 'that's current affairs'. If your source originated on the Internet, how is that History?!

Must be 12-14 years since I went to Lascaux. When I was little, we went to France once (and sometimes) twice a year. I've not been back for a very long time. My choice!

I went to Scotland for the first time last year. It's gorgeous. I stayed mostly in Edinburgh (the castle is amazing) though I had a few days at Loch Lomond.

[identity profile] klostes.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, Edinburgh Castle is amazing--as is the rock it sits upon! The only description that worked for me was that if the Tao was a rock, it would be that one. Last fall I went to Scotland; it's my one and only "foreign" trip. We spent a week in Edinburgh, took the train out the to the coast, and then went to the Hebrides, mostly Lewis. I can't wait to go back. Who needs the rest of Europe? ;-)

And LOL! My oldest son loves sociology, we throw barbs back and forth at each other. "that's ancient history, Mom. What use is it?" "That's just current events. It's not history yet, and it's not even interesting as current events!"

[identity profile] with-apostrophe.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Who needs the rest of Europe? ;-)

Well as fun as it might be to try and squeeze the rest of the population of Europe into Scotland, I don't think we'd fit.

Population of Scotland = circa 5 million
Population of LONDON = circa 8 million

It would be cozy if we tried!
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, eee! I *love* ancient history! For me it's always been more of a hobbyist sort of thing, not something I've ever studied formally. And my particular area of interest is more geared towards the Arctic (due to where I live). But I'm thoroughly fascinated by ancient daily life in general, no matter where -- how people lived, what they made, how they supported themselves, what it must have been like to have BEEN them.

I have this Christmas Amazon.com gift certificate burning a hole in my inbox and I really need to pick your brains on some books to buy. I have tons of books on prehistoric Alaska and a smattering of others that have caught my eye over the years, but I'm starting to have a craving for more. And ancient textiles are something I actually know very little about ... hm!

[identity profile] klostes.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I'd recommend "Women's Work, the first 10,000 years" before the Prehistoric Textiles book. It was a fascinating look at the textile industry over the years, and far less technical. PT's first few chapters are all about the evolution of sheep and how z-twist vs. s-twist spinning came about with the various kinds of drop spindles used. Unless you're familiar with the technical details she's discussing, I'm not sure how interesting it would be. I'll let you know how the book goes as I get further into it.

If you want Ancient, Ancient, I can only recommend the book I had to buy for class, "The Oxford History of Prehistoric Europe" edited by Barry Cunliffe. Great book!
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
The first textile book does sound more interesting to me than the second (although that sort of technical detail can come in handy if I have to draw someone spinning). I think I'll go look it up on Amazon now! Thank you! :)

[identity profile] klostes.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Keep me posted on what you think!
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Pah. They don't like ANYTHING on Gateworld, it sometimes seems to me. Depressing thing is that TPTB always seem to hear from the *negative* fans all the time.

I'll be over in the corner with my barrel of happy squee, thanks.

[identity profile] klostes.livejournal.com 2007-01-10 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes they do, but yeah, it generally gets pretty ugly pretty quickly. I got started over there towards the end of the quarter because it was a quick study break to pop in, and because I didn't have that many SGA fans on my f'list here. But no one wants to really *talk* over there, they just want to chat. I tried to get some serious conversations going, and no one would bite. Ah, well. The one cool thing is that the writers and PTB show up occasionally and post.