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A few more random things about GotG3
In no particular order. Also, I have exactly one GotG icon right now because I got rid of the rest of them in the last year or so, thinking I wouldn't need them anymore and wanting to free up space for Biggles icons. In retrospect I obviously cursed myself.
- "Floor. Because I'm lying on it." The internet is going to love you, Floor, if they don't already.
- I deeply appreciate the movie's willingness to make getting badly hurt look unsexy. Not every instance was like this, there were definitely bloodless stabbings and the like, but I'm thinking of things like Rocket's muzzle being matted with foam and saliva, or Peter getting caught in hard vacuum looking a lot more like what that might actually look like (bloated and bruised) than the first two movies' more photogenic version - and in both those cases, no one cares about that, it's not a joke or played for laughs, everyone is just scared and upset because their friend is dying.
- I love how this movie managed to do the found-family thing without making it insular or smothering. The whole movie is about the team risking their lives to save one of their own, as well as (repeatedly) each other. But not everyone ends up living together at the end and that's okay. Gamora has another family/team elsewhere. Mantis needs to learn who she is away from them, as an explicit decision she makes. (I don't remember if I've ever actually seen something like that in a movie like this portrayed as a good and positive decision.) Peter needs to go reconnect with his birth family. Nebula has grown into the leader/rebuilder of an entire city. But it's clear they'll always have each other's backs, and also, they aren't a closed system. If someone clicks with them and needs that closeness, they'll take other people in, like Adam and the little white-haired girl. It's just a really nice balance of different things and I liked it a lot.
- Similarly, I really liked how the movie handled the dichotomy between moral resistance to killing and hurting people, vs. desire for revenge ("kill everyone!") and how both of those are the right choice at different points in the movie.
- And on the topic of Gamora and the Ravagers, I really love that the movie doesn't drop the bombshell that she really loves them (they're her people, her family) until the end, when you've seen how everything plays out with Gamora and the Guardians, they've all made peace with things being different, and then you get to see that she's not lonely or alone, she's doing fine and she's got a place to belong. I really liked the timing on that and I feel it wouldn't have had nearly as much impact if we hadn't had a whole movie to get to know her as someone apart from the previous version of her.
- I love that Peter finally gets to save someone he cares about, after two movies in which he absolutely failed to do this and had to watch two people he loved die in front of him while he was unable to do anything about it.
- In general, I just love how optimistic this movie was. It didn't feel too easy, it didn't feel like anyone got anything they didn't work for, but in the end they saved nearly everybody: the kids, the experimental animals, the dungeon monsters, and each other.
- Also, A+ cavalry entrance with the entirety of Knowhere coming through the space gate and the look on the bad guy's face when he realized what he had picked a fight with.
- I still can hardly believe the movie did exactly what I wanted with Gamora, which was to have everyone accept that she was her own person and would never have the exact same relationships with everyone else as her predecessor. Media just ... never does this with replacement alternate versions of characters, or at least hardly ever, and it was glorious.
In conclusion, I leave you with Rocket and a couple dozen baby raccoons:
- "Floor. Because I'm lying on it." The internet is going to love you, Floor, if they don't already.
- I deeply appreciate the movie's willingness to make getting badly hurt look unsexy. Not every instance was like this, there were definitely bloodless stabbings and the like, but I'm thinking of things like Rocket's muzzle being matted with foam and saliva, or Peter getting caught in hard vacuum looking a lot more like what that might actually look like (bloated and bruised) than the first two movies' more photogenic version - and in both those cases, no one cares about that, it's not a joke or played for laughs, everyone is just scared and upset because their friend is dying.
- I love how this movie managed to do the found-family thing without making it insular or smothering. The whole movie is about the team risking their lives to save one of their own, as well as (repeatedly) each other. But not everyone ends up living together at the end and that's okay. Gamora has another family/team elsewhere. Mantis needs to learn who she is away from them, as an explicit decision she makes. (I don't remember if I've ever actually seen something like that in a movie like this portrayed as a good and positive decision.) Peter needs to go reconnect with his birth family. Nebula has grown into the leader/rebuilder of an entire city. But it's clear they'll always have each other's backs, and also, they aren't a closed system. If someone clicks with them and needs that closeness, they'll take other people in, like Adam and the little white-haired girl. It's just a really nice balance of different things and I liked it a lot.
- Similarly, I really liked how the movie handled the dichotomy between moral resistance to killing and hurting people, vs. desire for revenge ("kill everyone!") and how both of those are the right choice at different points in the movie.
- And on the topic of Gamora and the Ravagers, I really love that the movie doesn't drop the bombshell that she really loves them (they're her people, her family) until the end, when you've seen how everything plays out with Gamora and the Guardians, they've all made peace with things being different, and then you get to see that she's not lonely or alone, she's doing fine and she's got a place to belong. I really liked the timing on that and I feel it wouldn't have had nearly as much impact if we hadn't had a whole movie to get to know her as someone apart from the previous version of her.
- I love that Peter finally gets to save someone he cares about, after two movies in which he absolutely failed to do this and had to watch two people he loved die in front of him while he was unable to do anything about it.
- In general, I just love how optimistic this movie was. It didn't feel too easy, it didn't feel like anyone got anything they didn't work for, but in the end they saved nearly everybody: the kids, the experimental animals, the dungeon monsters, and each other.
- Also, A+ cavalry entrance with the entirety of Knowhere coming through the space gate and the look on the bad guy's face when he realized what he had picked a fight with.
- I still can hardly believe the movie did exactly what I wanted with Gamora, which was to have everyone accept that she was her own person and would never have the exact same relationships with everyone else as her predecessor. Media just ... never does this with replacement alternate versions of characters, or at least hardly ever, and it was glorious.
In conclusion, I leave you with Rocket and a couple dozen baby raccoons:
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BUT . . . there are going to be SERIOUS waterworks for that scene. For both of us, but especially for M.
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That's what shared universes require.
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Though I also have kind of a headache from crying in the movie theater.
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Snick said something about it in chat that really resonated with me, which is that if Endgame took all the character questions that had been raised for those characters through the course of the MCU movies and answered them with "no", this movie was the exact opposite of that. This was how you conclude a trilogy. It was great.
I hope you do write for it! I can't figure out yet if I want to - I kinda want All The Aftermath fic while not being able to find any on Ao3 that's exactly what I want (there really is very little of it!) or, for that matter, figure out exactly what I *do* want. It did reawaken some dormant feelings, though. I can feel them bouncing around in there.