sholio: sun on winter trees (Team Love)
Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2008-08-01 11:19 pm

SGA 5x04

I'm starting to really wonder if my "meh" reaction to Seed really did have a lot to do with just being stressed-out and unhappy, because the rest of this season is totally knocking it out of the park. We're now four-for-four with strong team episodes, in which everyone gets something to do, the characters get to pair off with their teammates (YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN) in all kinds of interesting ways, and stuff blows up! With extra bonus feelings and teamy squishiness!

The most squeak-and-flail moments in the episode:

- RODNEY AND BABY. (And John: "There are FEELINGS happening here!" *flees*) As adorable as the introductory scene was -- yes, I'm SO easy; stick Rodney and John in a room and let them snark at each other, and I roll right over like a fangirl puppy -- I felt sad for Rodney, not getting to hold Teyla's baby. And then ... BABY!

- Rodney and Teyla! Doing technical stuff! Together! I had so much love for techie-Teyla in this episode that I could EXPLODE.

- Speaking of explosions, John and Ronon blowing stuff up! Ronon and his railguns. Awww. And John fanboying himself! (Much as Rodney was doing earlier with his alt-self's science.) Oh, DORKS.

- Ghost ship! I love derelict ships and abandoned space stations/top-secret facilities of all sorts. I mentioned I'm an easy sell for this stuff, right?

Extra bonus love for the team running the whole ship by themselves. Which, well, logistically, I tried not to think about too hard, really. But the whole theme of the team stranded, alone, forced to rely on themselves and each other, having to improvise and figure things out in a hurry -- that's really the core of what I love most about Atlantis, right there.

And so far, the season is four-for-four with delivering teamy aftermath scenes in the infirmary, too! DID I MENTION HOW EASY I AM? Every single episode, someone's been hurt and the episode wraps up with the characters, in different combinations, having a team moment around the bedside of the hurt one. I don't know whether to be thrilled or slightly worried, because this is pretty much what started burning me out on Supernatural -- it was fun for a while, and then it was just too much. Not that I'm complaining in the meantime, though.
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[personal profile] naye 2008-08-02 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes, yes! I'm kind of incoherent right now, because I spend the last - oh, I don't know, doesn't matter, but I posted my episode reaction right now and so did you and I have so much love for this episode! (See. Incoherent!)

RODNEY AND BABY! After all, we've already seen John with the baby. Now we NEED Ronon and baby. Need, need, need. Erm. Yes. Slightly obsessed with that but - it's so cute!

Am so loving the teaminess of this season! Team stuck together in different realities, relying on each other to get back, and they all believe in Rodney, but they need all of them. Teyla's technical knowledge make me squeak, too! So happy. ♥ And then Ronon and Teyla, and Ronon and John, and - ohh, Ronon calling the others for backup, because he knows his team will come save him! That's something he's had to relearn, I'm sure, after all those years alone...

Maybe I'm easy too, but I am so happy with our show. ♥ Our show and TEAM and they're genius dorks that fight back to back through dimensions!
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
This has been SUCH a teamy season! Though ... it's not like we haven't gotten team episodes in past seasons ... I think I'm just really enjoying how they're doing it, the way they're integrating Teyla's personal life and the team's little downtime moments into the whole tapestry of explosions and aliens, as they've been doing quite well since last season. And they've been doing really well at picking up some of the character relationships that were given short shrift last season (Teyla and Ronon, Rodney and Teyla). Obviously, it's not possible to feature every character relationship in every episode, but they've been doing an awfully good job of giving us those little bits and pieces this season, and I love it!
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[personal profile] naye 2008-08-02 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I have nothing but love for the way they've been writing team this season! It's so very rare that I feel a show getting better every season - usually my favorite shows hit their high point in season 4, for some reason - but they've started out so very strong...! I didn't love The Seed as much as I've loved the other eps, but The Seed did a great job with Woolsey, and with character worry and lots and lots of team interaction - and interacting with everyone, not just team-team... But then Broken Ties and now this? Everyone has stuff to do! Everyone cares about everyone else! Nobody except Teyla would ever manage to put this into words, and if she tried there'd be a lot of funny faces and RUN AWAY!, but. This is my team, and I love them, in all their snarky, stubborn, loyal, dorky, brilliant glory. ♥
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I have nothing but love for the way they've been writing team this season! It's so very rare that I feel a show getting better every season - usually my favorite shows hit their high point in season 4, for some reason - but they've started out so very strong...

Such a relief that it's not just me ...! I've generally found that shows go downhill somewhere around season 4 or 5, though I'm honestly not sure how much of that is the *show* running out of steam, and how much is just me losing interest in watching it. And I don't have all that much of a sample to look at, because so few of my shows make it that long ...! "Buffy" definitely tanked in its last couple of seasons. I quit watching SG-1 in season 6, though I'd already started losing interest through seasons 4 & 5; in retrospect, I'm not sure how much of it was the show and how much was me, but a lot of the fandom felt, as I did, that the characters became more distant and less invested in each other as the show went on, unlike SGA where they keep reminding us of how close the characters are.

They're just such a wonderful bunch of social misfits. :) I've never fanned on a show this long or this hard ... well, except for "MacGyver" in my teens, but I was a teenager so I'm not sure if the normal rules apply. (Also, that was *definitely* a case of a show that went downhill as it aged.)
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[personal profile] naye 2008-08-02 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm... I don't know if I've ever noticed the 4-5 season thing even when I've been mainlining a show, so I suspect it might be a combination of the show losing it's spark, and me losing interest. But Buffy - yeah. I definitely liked fifth season, but sixth? Um. The musical episode was good?

B5's fifth season wasn't as good as the previous for a lot of reasons, but it doesn't change the fact that it was worse than what had come before.
X-Files... oh, that's such a bitter break-up for so many people! I lost interest somewhere around season 4-5, and I really do think it was experiencing a noticeable drop in quality around then. (One of the main actors wanting to leave is generally not a good thing - see also SG-1!)

And MacGyver - I don't even want to think about what happened to that show! I loved it so much...! For years, I loved it. And then I think they must have stopped airing new episodes for a while, or something, because I never really watched the last seasons. (Or I could just be totally repressing the experience. *g*)

Right now I think SGA hasn't quite surpassed my Sentinel fanning - but only when it comes to time spent in one fandom. I've never been this creative in a fandom before, or this involved in the community. Of course, The Sentinel was my big teenage fandom (MacGyver I was actually watched in my pre-teens), and the internet was a totally different place back then, so it's difficult to compare. For example, I didn't actually have new episodes of the show to watch back then. Swedish TV aired the episodes about a six months or a year behind the US. So I lived on spoilers and quotes others shared, before finally getting to see what I had already imagined in great detail.

...and, wow did I ever get sidetracked! It's your LJ, it's dangerous! XD

Where was I? Wasn't I supposed to be talking about the team? I love the team! There we go. End of babble!
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Hee! You know you can babble in my journal anytime!

"MacGyver" became awful. And I watched every episode as it aired, knowing it was awful. So sad.

And some shows never even make it that long. I loved the first season of "Invisible Man" and fanned like a crazy fannish thing, then didn't like the second season all that much. "Forever Knight", feh -- THERE IS NO THIRD SEASON.

Right now I think SGA hasn't quite surpassed my Sentinel fanning - but only when it comes to time spent in one fandom.

Heh, I need to watch the rest of "Sentinel"! I've seen most of it, but in bits and pieces, here and there. It was always my sister's show; she had a huge crush on Garrett Maggert, but I never paid that much attention to it (the only episode I specifically remember from the show's original run was "Golden"). I started watching it on cable a few years ago, but never managed to catch all the episodes, let alone in anything resembling order. The first season's out on DVD, and I have it, but the last I checked, there wasn't any more to be had.

In fact, there are a lot of shows from that era I want to catch up on. I saw the first 2 or 3 seasons of Babylon 5, but then I went off to college and didn't have a TV. Same thing with Due South, ST:DS9 and a number of other shows that were airing at about the same time.
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 08:52 am (UTC)(link)
BABYLON 5!!!

...Umm. Just wanted to get that in there. [livejournal.com profile] naye will probably jump in to corroborate. I didn't know you hadn't seen the whole thing - it's definitely worth rewatching. Still is almost unique in its storytelling, for being a complete and planned story, beginning to end; it's got its flaws, but when it comes to EPICs nothing tops it. (Avatar manages the same, but it's much shorter and had anime influence to draw on...) If I'm really pushed I'll probably still put B5 as my number one favorite TV show of all time.

Sentinel, on the other hand, is...umm...I was into it hardcore and I don't think I actually ever watched every episode. Partly because it was harder to get hold of back then and partly because, well...even when I was into it, it wasn't that good. ^^;

--Oh, I originally was popping in here to say that the 4th season slide isn't just illusion; a lot of shows go downhill after s4-5. ST:TNG definitely dipped in its last couple, X-files as mentioned, SG-1...(though SG-1 went on for so long that it actually went back up again in the last couple seasons, in my opinion, which is an interested phenomenon...)

SGA doesn't seem to be slumping yet...I wonder if it's partly because SGA sort of reinvents itself every season? Watching the whole thing all at once, the show has a drastically different mood/theme every season, keeps things on its toes?