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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2019-02-06 11:06 pm

Writing minifics

One thing I've been doing quite a lot of, over the last few years, is writing vignettes for prompts, usually on Tumblr (which is well suited to it) but occasionally here on DW as well. It's interesting because these usually aren't complete stories (if they do end up feeling like a complete story, I'll generally post them on AO3), and yet, there is technique to making them feel complete even when they are clearly just a small scene from something longer. Because it's not just a random scene that starts in some random place and stops equally randomly. There is a beginning, a middle, and an end; there's a little bit of scene-setting at the beginning, there's some sort of point to it (even if it's just a joke), and then it ends on a note that feels like, if not an actual ending, then ... punctuation, I guess. It doesn't just stop; there's a little bit of a "pop" at the end there.

Not that I always succeed at this. But this Agent Carter one I posted last night is a good example, I think, of a minific that I'm really happy with; it's clearly a scene from something longer -- it's not complete enough to post on AO3 as a story -- but it's enjoyable to read on its own and doesn't feel unfinished. At least I don't think so.

It's fun. I think this is part of why I keep doing it -- well, that and I love the prompt inspiration and really enjoy writing things for people. But it is an art form of its own, a little bit apart from the skill and technique of writing a fully developed story.

(I need to do a roundup post for last year's ficlets. I kinda meant to do that and then January got away from me and now it's February, help.)
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[personal profile] lazaefair 2019-02-08 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
I’m coming at it more from the standpoint of - well, the digital black hole has been on my mind again after all the Tumblr purge shenanigans. And all of those headcanons and not!fics and scraps and snippets do represent real creative work, are still fanworks, and to lose them is to lose pieces of culture. It’s losing information. It’s losing whatever future joy, sorrow, enjoyment, or tinder spark for further creativity in future readers.

I’m getting anxious thinking about all the content not archived or backed-up anywhere on Tumblr and Pillowfort. A lot of people don’t practice good personal data management either, so the files on their hard drives get deleted or moved around, so when a Tumblr bot flags a fanwork and deletes it, and the creator doesn’t have access to the file anymore? Bam, gone forever. A mod on Pillowfort has a bad day and goes on a deleting spree without notifying the creators? Bam, gone. It’s fandom in 2003 all over again.

Dreamwidth is more stable and trustworthy than those two sites for sure. But it’s still not set up for archiving the same way AO3 is, for maximum ease of searching and accessing - with the option to orphan works, and comprehensive sitewide tagging, and all of that good stuff. Which is why I think even the headcanons and metas and collaborative chat log storytelling sessions should go on AO3, tagged and labeled for what they are, and most importantly, preserved and available.
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[personal profile] yalumesse 2019-02-08 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm afraid of the digital black hole a lot. All these snippets only on tumblr? I save the HTML file just in case. Stuff on AO3 doesn't feel quite so risky.

That said, I also feel awkward posting bits and pieces of unfinishd (often never to be finished) stories, but using the "Unfinished Work" tag helps a bit, makes sure people know what they're getting into from the start.
Edited 2019-02-08 04:35 (UTC)
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[personal profile] lazaefair 2019-02-08 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, exactly, as long as you've clearly tagged and labeled it, pretty much anything could (and should) go on AO3. Like some of the other commenters, I do enjoy reading even the ephemeral thoughts of my favorite writers, and I'd love to be able to find them more easily than on an unstructured mess like Tumblr.
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[personal profile] lazaefair 2019-02-08 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want future digital archaeologists to have to reconstruct our entire fandom culture solely through complaints about whoever's our equivalent of Ea-Nasir, is all I'm saying. (Cassandra Clare? The author of My Immortal?)

Kidding, but I'm aware my anxieties about fanwork archiving come from my overall hoarding tendencies, compounded with growing up the child of a librarian, and only worsened by working professionally as a journalist/media producer where you have to archive and label everything your entire organization does because you almost certainly will be referring back to or using it in future stories.

I think we as humans weren't really meant to save every conversation we've ever had, no matter how delightful in the moment.

That's entirely fair. And I totally get the hesitation about posting scraps/ficlets/incompletes as standalone stories, I've actually been in the exact same boat since I got on AO3. It's only in the last month or so that I've started rethinking my assumptions about the nature and function of AO3.
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[personal profile] booksarelife 2019-02-08 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
(only replying to a tiny part of this) I think people, from my experience have much less strong issues about fandom-specific ficlet collections than about multifandom ficlet collections. I also personally like seeing the unfinished stuff or the things someone will never really write, but that's also just me