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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2009-10-03 10:39 am
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NCIS & NCIS:LA

NCIS is totally my fannish happy place this season. It would be even more of a fannish happy place if there was any sort of fic for what I want to read (McGee and Tony! having buddy adventures!) but despite the lack, fic always takes a backseat to canon for me and canon is delivering in a major way, so I'm very happy. I mean like, rewatching-certain-scenes-in-the-premiere-a-half-dozen-times happy. *glows* (They're friends! And they hang out together! And Tony told Terrorist Guy** how he really thinks of McGee, basically praised him, twice!, with Tim right there in the room listening! Truth serum FTW! \o/)

** Okay, I'm steadfastly not thinking about Terrorist Guy too hard, but it's NCIS and they've certainly failed WORSE in the past; this is just ordinary levels of fail for them.

I was disappointed with the fast and anticlimactic ending of 7x01 (also rather amused at the show apparently running out of budget for the climactic gun battle, so we just got a shot of the door and some f/x of screaming and gunfire off-camera!), but it was nice to see some of the fallout dealt with in the next episode. I'm happy to have Ziva back but I hope this won't mean an end to all the Tony-McGee interaction we've been getting. Actually, in general, my biggest wish for this season is that it'll have lots of ALL the characters in various combinations, not just Tony-Gibbs or Tony-Ziva. When was the last time we got a good Ducky-Gibbs scene? Or saw Abby and Ducky together? Basically, guys, just remember that you have an ensemble this year, and we'll be groovy. :D









The first episode of NCIS:LA didn't really grab me too hard, but by the end of the second one, I think this one's gonna be a keeper for this season at least. I still don't feel that the cast, as a whole, has the same sparkle as the NCIS cast, and I'm really bothered (moreso than I realized I would be) by this show's weakness in the female-characters department (though I like the female coroner(?), and agree with [livejournal.com profile] naye that it's lovely to see an older woman in a leadership role!).

Having said that, SAAAAAAAM omfg *sparkle sparkle sparkle*. This can just be the LL Cool J show and I won't complain a bit. I think he hits all my Dean Winchester buttons -- drop-dead gorgeous (those eyes! that smile! weeeee!) and hyper-competent with weapons, neat sense of humor, vulnerable just when you least expect it. And even though Callen, as a character, interests me not at all, his partnership with Sam is cute as hell. (Sam's little wink in the ops room in the first episode ... *flails*) Yeah, I may be about as shallow as a puddle here. I also think Psychologist Guy and Coroner Girl are cute together, and Newbie Guy is pretty adorable too. (Maybe eventually I'll remember everyone's names.) Hettie, I think, I like more as a concept than an actual character, but we'll see how she develops; I think I'm influenced by having seen the actress in more over-the-top roles and so I'm having trouble thinking of her as the leader of an NCIS unit. At least she's not 29 and blonde, though! And the female field agent, I'm reserving judgment on; I have yet to see much sign of a distinct personality or individual relationships with her teammates, but she and Newbie Guy were pretty fun to watch and I hope they develop her a bit more. The computer guy I'm kind of bleh about; I think, again, there's just not much personality there, but we're only two episodes in, so we'll see.

In conclusion, SAM. ♥ ♥ ♥ (Standing up in the duck pond at the end of 1x02! Oh my god, Sam, could you get any more awesome.)

[identity profile] roga.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I haven't watched NCIS LA at all! So you're saying it's worth downloading? (I skipped over your ep reaction so as not to be spoiled, but I sense general enthusiasm.)

I've been happy with NCIS this season too :-)

I don't remember if I've recced you these, but this (http://ygrawn.livejournal.com/25556.html) is a great NCIS post S6 finale fic, long and loving with a little Ziva/Tony and a lot of Ziva/Gibbs/Team friendship, and this (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5199196/1/Volatile_Compounds) is a really really awesome SPN crossover I read today.

[identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I wrote a family large review on both shows, so I won't rehash things here. Although NCIS has hit all my buttons on teamness and I must say I am so vibing the McGee and Tony stuff! I even enjoyed this episode more than the season premiere.

I'm giving L.A time to figure out what type of show it wants to be, but I will say this. I love Sam and Callen...and I like the shrink a bit too and adore Linda Hunt.(Hope they do more with her)

I can't believe I'm saying this, but if you find any good slash fics on L.A, could you post them? I love the buddy and yet, not stuff they have going in the show. Some of it isn't even subtle, but for some reasons it’s kind of charming.

[identity profile] water-soter.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I was crining a little at the almost-too-much-but-just-this-side-of-not-overly-mushy scene with Ziva. For me, at least. And yeah, I just love all those Tony/McGee moments. I love those two. And I'm with you, I love seeing the characters placed in all sorts of pairings. And yeah, I really loved the way they handled the aftermath of what had happened. Tony was just too perfect though is it just me, or did are we seeing less and less of Abby and Ducky? Anywho, looking forward to this season now that all the possible Ziva/Tony shipness is out of the way.

As for NCIS LA, I just can't stand the way they're handling the female characters. Why is it that a woman in charge either has to be a b-ach or incompetent mess or mary sueish or men in women's bodies? Women can be women and still be excellent leaders, people!!! Just, ack. I can't watch the show without getting annoyed. They should take some pointers from shows like The Mentalist and Psych.

[identity profile] water-soter.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't say I hate the women on NCIS LA just find them lacking any real depth and yes, I totally agree that Hetty is much better than Jenny, but like you said, I'm spoiled by wonderfully done women in so many of the shows that I watch that seeing anything less just doesn't interest me. And you can't really compare Abby to anyone, she's just so well acted and written for the most part. I certainly prefer Vance to Jenny. He's such an interesting character in comparison.

[identity profile] water-soter.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I did indeed. :-P

[identity profile] water-soter.livejournal.com 2009-10-05 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I forgot to add this

http://water-soter.livejournal.com/14910.html#cutid1 \

sorry, I've been very distracted lately. Hope you like!
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whee~!

[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, I'm loving NCIS - the Tim-Tony stuff is fantastic, and I actually like the Tony/Ziva stuff...also like the Tim-Ziva stuff, which there was a fair bit of (platonic m-f friendship ftw!) And the Ziva-Abby hugs! Am hoping they do more ensemble stuff, but they're usually pretty good with it, so, my hopes are high!

Having said that, SAAAAAAAM omfg *sparkle sparkle sparkle*. This can just be the LL Cool J show and I won't complain a bit. I think he hits all my Dean Winchester buttons -- drop-dead gorgeous (those eyes! that smile! weeeee!) and hyper-competent with weapons, neat sense of humor, vulnerable just when you least expect it.

YESSSSSSSS~! *joins you in the Sam-love so hard*

(I'm enjoying the show more than I might mainly 'cuz I'm watching it with a major LL Cool J-fangirl, who is very happy I share the love. But really, how could you not? he wields the living embodiment of a "light-up-the-room-smile", guy wouldn't need a flashlight in a dark airplane hangar! also that body, man...)
(also his & Callen's slashiness has reached epic levels by, like, what, the 2nd ep? I expect fic, fandom! *taps foot*)

Love Hettie myself, but I actually hadn't seen Linda Hunt before so am not biased. Also am fond of Psychologist-guy (is he Nate? or am I getting confused with Leverage?) because male psych-profilers are less common on TV. And the other agensts have potential (at least there's one woman there!) so...

Re: whee~!

[identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)

I think it is funny that both my husband and I started to watch it because fo LL. Cool J! :D


The psych guy Is Nate, because after Sam and Callen, I enjoyed him a lot as well. If they five Hettie some more face time over the season I'll be in love! :-P

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Re: whee~!

[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it is funny that both my husband and I started to watch it because fo LL. Cool J! :D

Hee! Something for everyone! I didn't really know him before this (knew his name but hadn't seen him, really) but I can see your point ^^
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Re: whee~!

[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never felt that McGee got sidelined, but I like them being all Team best, so hoping that keeps up! And more Abby is always good... (--I don't actually know for sure, but I was wondering if Ducky was in it a bit less last year just because David McCallum just turned 76...of course he's very active, but still!)

In any case, if fandom doesn't go for Callen/Sam as the main slash pairing, I'm going to be -- well, I don't know if I'd be entirely shocked, but very very disappointed with fandom for living down to my worst expectatations. *taps foot and waits with you* (YOU could write it, you know! *nudges*)

*laughs* But I don't write slash from scratch; I need someone else to break the ice! And right now I'm not really feeling Callen enough to attempt him...

NCIS has never gotten a major fic following despite everyone watching it, curious if N:LA will...
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
NCIS is my happy popcorn show that I've been watching for six seasons without ever getting really invested. Normally if I don't get invested in a show I stop watching, but NCIS is just something I can enjoy. Almost like a normal tv viewer. *g* Very weird. (I'm doing a re-watch with some friends now, and season one works nice on rewatch too, as I completely forget most cases.)

Haven't seen the second LA ep yet. The first one was okay. Enough to keep me watching, but it didn't grab me. Callen does nothing for me; they're playing up his tragic past too much IMHO. I'm getting a woobie vibe. Sam is very easy on the eyes indeed. :) Haven't formed an opinion beyond that. I much liked the female cop in the NCIS pilot, but here I thought we didn't get to see enough of her. Well, it's still early. I'll definitely give them a few eps to develop the characters.

I adored Linda Hunt, though. Possibly because she reminded me so much of that character in The Incredibles (which has be be based on her).
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee - actually Linda Hunt didn't play Edna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edna_Mode) in The Incredibles (Edna was voiced by Brad Bird himself, the writer/director) but the char was clearly based on her (I didn't know that myself, never saw the movie she was adapted from, but the moment Hettie appeared on screen I recognized her as Edna's inspiration!)

[identity profile] mitchy.livejournal.com 2009-10-03 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Hettie puzzles me because I don't think she IS the leader of the unit. It was made clear by TPTB that they were not going to replace Louise Lombard's character, who was the unit leader, and when the news broke that Linda was being hired, her character was described as a Q type, responsible for equipment, ID etc. (Hence her kitting out Callen in the first ep). The lack of a clearly defined leader role is the only thing that bugs me about LA so far, I think it needs to be clarified. As for the rest, plenty of potential there as they flesh out the characters, I'm enjoying it so far.

I agree that the cast hasn't quite gelled yet but that should come (cast changes wouldn't surprise me though). The other minor quibble I have is that as someone pointed out, if they took "NCIS" out of the title, it would make no difference to the show. I think they need to give it a stronger identity.

But then NCIS got stronger with each season so it's very early days ;)

[identity profile] flingslass.livejournal.com 2009-10-13 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I was going to say the same thing. Hetty is a Q-type character. But I love her best. Such a wickedly smart woman (And total Mum to Callen!)

[identity profile] tringasolitaria.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
:) I think we're pretty much on the same page here. I've been really enjoying NCIS this year, especially the new Tim & Tony dynamics, and I hope it keeps up.

NCIS LA - yeah, I like Sam. :) And yeah, like you I find myself a lot more bothered by the lack of a strong female presence than I thought I would be, and also by the lack of a definite command structure. I think the show has some bugs to work out - it has possibilities, especially in the relationship between Sam and Callen - but I think there's a lot that could be improved. Their pushing of poor woobie Callen last week was way OTT, IMO at least. So far they're telling us too much instead of showing us. Subtlety is your friend, writers.
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[personal profile] ariadne83 2009-10-04 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam is adorable. G's backstory is so ridiculous it's almost charming.
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[personal profile] naye 2009-10-05 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
I admit it - I like Callen. I am easy. I... had a huge, huge crush on Chris O'Donnell as a teen, which definitely helps. And - yeah, he's tragic and all, but he's still got a sense of humor, and I like seeing people around him watching him the way they do. Ready to hold him together if he should start falling apart. (The fact that he recently just almost died also makes me cut him a lot of slack - that kind of trauma, it makes sense that all sorts of crap that he usually doesn't think too much about is floating up to the surface.)

But I really like Callen because Sam likes Callen, and I absolutely adore the way the two of them relate to each other. Sam's SMILE!! ♥ Awww~!

NCIS continues to be a happy-but-not-fannish show for me - I really, really appreciate that they have all these different constellations with men and women and younger and older and all of them agree on what's important: team. And there are hugs! And fond ribbing and serious stuff and. It's just been making me happy for the 40 minutes a week I spend on it.

ETA: Oops. Sometimes an "almost" can make a big difference in what you're trying to say...! XD
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[identity profile] flingslass.livejournal.com 2009-10-13 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
I LOVE Hetty! She sneaks in these subtle comments but is there when her team needs her. I just watched the third episode and Dominic (young bloke) had a crisis which she helped him through. Am loving Nate the psych as well. You are right about the female though. She's a bit meh.

I need more Ducky and Abby time but I'm glad that Tony is now calling McGee McSidekick. I HATED Probie!

[identity profile] flingslass.livejournal.com 2009-10-16 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
That's what I think. It was more that Tim didn't fight back! (I would have :D)