It is fun to debate things with someone I don't see eye-to-eye with. But it's also fun to discuss things while sharing a brain ... and sometimes you and I do that to a really alarming extent!
LOL! Yeah. Y'know, when we do disagree about characters or issues (like we originally did with Dean) - I feel mixture of both excitement and a sort of unease. Because we share a brain so often, it feels weird, but I also sort of enjoy being on the other side of tussle from you because you do argue well and I enjoy the challenge. But it does seem that we eventually find common ground on most issues anyway.
I keep trying to write stories about Dean that mysteriously morph into stories about Bobby. Er ... wtf? and also, oops?
Stories about Bobby are good too. Just saying. ;-P
But now that I've gotten to "know" him, I adore him so much because he's not a guy whose virtues are obvious at first glace -- at least not to me, I suppose.
Yeah, I totally adore characters whose virtues aren't obvious at first glance. Rodney McKay is another wonderful example of that he's rude, arrogant, smug, irritating, doesn't play nice with others, often voices cowardly sentiments and has the biggest hypochondriac streak this side of Munchausen's syndrome - and yet (from almost the first episodes of SGA) he's the sort of guy who would walk into an energy-sucking cloud of darkness to try and save others.
But we weren't talking about SGA either...
Sublimating one's own needs for the good of someone else is not generally shown as a positive choice in media. It's unusual to see it as the action of a hero, which is weird because it SHOULD be, but (at least in American media) it's a lot more common to see a hero as someone who forges out boldly and performs spectacular acts of heroism, not someone who quietly sacrifices so that someone else can be happy.
Hmm... I wonder... The general viewship seem to see Dean as hero when he's got a gun in his hand and is taking down those evil sons of bitches. But do they see him as a hero when he quietly sacrifices - or do they see him as victim when he does that? Coz you're right, it SHOULD really be seen as even MORE heroic than the gun-toting action hero. But does a modern audience really get that?
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LOL! Yeah. Y'know, when we do disagree about characters or issues (like we originally did with Dean) - I feel mixture of both excitement and a sort of unease. Because we share a brain so often, it feels weird, but I also sort of enjoy being on the other side of tussle from you because you do argue well and I enjoy the challenge. But it does seem that we eventually find common ground on most issues anyway.
I keep trying to write stories about Dean that mysteriously morph into stories about Bobby. Er ... wtf? and also, oops?
Stories about Bobby are good too. Just saying. ;-P
But now that I've gotten to "know" him, I adore him so much because he's not a guy whose virtues are obvious at first glace -- at least not to me, I suppose.
Yeah, I totally adore characters whose virtues aren't obvious at first glance. Rodney McKay is another wonderful example of that he's rude, arrogant, smug, irritating, doesn't play nice with others, often voices cowardly sentiments and has the biggest hypochondriac streak this side of Munchausen's syndrome - and yet (from almost the first episodes of SGA) he's the sort of guy who would walk into an energy-sucking cloud of darkness to try and save others.
But we weren't talking about SGA either...
Sublimating one's own needs for the good of someone else is not generally shown as a positive choice in media. It's unusual to see it as the action of a hero, which is weird because it SHOULD be, but (at least in American media) it's a lot more common to see a hero as someone who forges out boldly and performs spectacular acts of heroism, not someone who quietly sacrifices so that someone else can be happy.
Hmm... I wonder... The general viewship seem to see Dean as hero when he's got a gun in his hand and is taking down those evil sons of bitches. But do they see him as a hero when he quietly sacrifices - or do they see him as victim when he does that? Coz you're right, it SHOULD really be seen as even MORE heroic than the gun-toting action hero. But does a modern audience really get that?