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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2010-07-26 11:24 am
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More (yes, more) thoughts on Avatar 3x12 & 3x13

Don't you hate it when someone on your flist gets obsessed with something you really don't care about, and posts about it five times a day? Yes, I have become that person. *hides*

Carrying on from my previous post with a few more thoughts on Zuko's arc ... (Yes, I'm sure you are all shocked.)

Like I said over there, I was expecting a redemption arc for Zuko; he totally had "redeemable villain" written all over him. What I was expecting, though, inasmuch as I had expectations, was a heat-of-the-moment decision: all the little decisions he's made and the ethical qualms that have plauged him lead up to Zuko, at some critical moment, probably in the middle of a battle, making a leap of intuition and ethics, saving somebody and switching sides. Or, you know, something like that. Not that it would be completely arbitrary, just that he'd hit some sort of dramatic tipping point where he couldn't take the guilt anymore, and would suddenly and spectacularly move in a new direction.

But I like the way they actually did it so much better! I never would have expected him to spend months thinking about it, and decide on a new course of action all by himself, and then walk right up to Aang & co., prepared to apologize and try to make amends. But it speaks so well of him that he's willing to do that, and capable of doing that, as opposed to being pushed into a spur-of-the-moment change of heart by circumstance. (Okay, yes, there was the whole thing with the assassin, but Zuko had already made his decision and started working towards it; the change of heart in this case was Team Avatar's.) And watching the little group slowly try to build a tentative trust, without any external pressures forcing them to do it, is neat! It's a slow quiet build towards what may eventually become genuine friendship, rather than a DBZ-style sudden change of allegiance under pressure.

Oh man, I am so gone for this show right now. I'm pretty sure that I haven't had a fan-crush of this emotional intensity since before SGA -- I'm not saying this is going to take me away from SGA, at least I'm pretty sure it won't, but it's been so long since I've felt this way ... since I discovered SGA, I guess. There have been plenty of things I've liked and loved and fanned on, but nothing else I've wanted to roll around in -- like fannish catnip, as [livejournal.com profile] naye says. *g* It feels good!

[identity profile] tringasolitaria.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you hate it when someone on your flist gets obsessed with something you really don't care about, and posts about it five times a day? Yes, I have become that person. *hides*

I saw this and LOLed. I'm glad you're enjoying your fannish catnip. ;) I may not get why my cats like catnip either, but it's sure fun to watch them enjoying it. :D

[identity profile] dreamingoctober.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't read the post because I still haven't seen this series, but I'm flailing around and clicking on the "Where's My Stuff" button on Amazon, waiting for my copy of Book 1 to get here so I can join in your discussions!! Gah! It is taking forever to arrive!

[identity profile] rheanna27.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you hate it when someone on your flist gets obsessed with something you really don't care about, and posts about it five times a day?

Alternatively, isn't it really adorable when someone on your flist discovers something awesome and can't help sharing their joyful enthusiasm? *g*

My lack of comment isn't a lack of interest -- I've started watching AtLA, but I'm still only on season 1, so I'm trying not to get too spoiled.
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[identity profile] snarkydame.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you hate it when someone on your flist gets obsessed with something you really don't care about, and posts about it five times a day?

No. No I don't. It's fun to watch someone else having fun! (that, and the fact that I DO care about Avatar, so it's even more fun. :D)
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[personal profile] sheron 2010-07-26 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Your posts on this subject are fun! My best friend also watched Avatar and flailed about it all over my inbox. I gave the first ep several shots but can't seem to get into it. Maybe eventually if enough people flail I'll work myself up to another attempt?
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[identity profile] kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I have been loving your posts! I'm so excited at all the Avatarness on my flist lately. :D
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
*laughs* I'm glad! This isn't a complaint about not getting enough comments -- belatedly, I realized that it might look that way -- but, rather, I was just a little worried about annoying or boring people. Glad that I'm not!
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, you're buying it? YAY! I can't wait to discuss it with you! :) (To say that I am loving it is an understatement -- it has all the good things that SGA has, *plus* exquisite world-building and character development! I can't recommend it highly enough!)
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2010-07-27 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
*laughs* I realized belatedly that my post might sound like I'm fishing for comments and/or complaining about not getting enough, which is not at all the case! I was just a bit worried about boring people ... but I know what you mean; I find it very fun and happy-making when people on my flist/circle get a new shiny thing and are full of bounce and squee for it.

Oh, and I'm thrilled that you're watching it! I'm looking forward to discussing it when you've seen a bit more! (And I'm pretty sure it's only a matter of time before I'm writing fic for it ...)
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2010-07-27 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
*g* Yeah, I was sort of tongue in cheek there -- it was mostly an apology for being all AVATAR AVATAR AVATAR lately -- but I find it really fun to watch other people being happy, even if I can't figure out what they see in it. *g*

And I'm in full-on fan-squee mode right now! It feels so good -- and it's been a long time; I have been fanning on other things while still being in SGA fandom, of course, but nothing has really caught me and held me in quite that way (except a couple of books, but there's no fandom for them and most people on my flist haven't read them, so it was hard to remain in that deep fannish head-space).
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2010-07-27 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
*g* I hope you're able to! Maybe it would help to skip forward a bit? I noticed that the early eps are more kids-show-ish than the series becomes later on.
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[personal profile] sheron 2010-07-27 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Heh, this has been suggested. I am getting the sense that the later eps are a bit, I don't want to say darker, but less cheesy? Than the first one.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2010-07-27 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! :D It's actually kind of exciting to discover how many people on my flist *are* actually either watching it for the first time, or fans from way back.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2010-07-27 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah; you're less aware that you're watching a kids' show, I guess would be a good way to put it. They start subverting a lot of the tropes and handling more mature themes. Season two, IMHO, is when it really kicks into gear; it's probably better and more emotionally resonant if you have all the character backstory from the first season, but you could always skip ahead and see if that does better for you.