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silly space show won't leave me alone

oh god, I'm back in love with SGA and it's worse than ever, help. XD Apparently, three months (give or take a bit) is enough time to get over the things I needed to get over and make peace with the things that made me frustrated and hurt and angry with both canon and fandom. I've never had a fandom get its hooks into me like this before; I've fanned on a lot of shows, books and comics over the years, but usually the really intensive fannish period (writing fic and reading a lot of it) lasts only a few months. But it's been almost exactly three years now since I got into SGA, and while there have definitely been ups and downs during that time, I seem to be in the midst of an "up".

According to the results of my poll, it looks like the vast majority of my f'list is sticking around as well, and that makes me happy too. (Obviously, I won't kick you out if you don't watch the show anymore! I do watch, read and discuss other things, too. But I'm back in my happy SGA place again, for now.)

I'm reccing John & Rodney friendship at

stargateficrec this month, and signed up to rec hurt/comfort over there next month. I also caved and signed up for

team_sga's AU Team Fest (I'll be doing gen for this one) -- and it looks like they still have a few open slots if anyone is interested! My

sticksandsnark fic is done and polished and ready to post when that goes live. And

sga_genficathon is cranking along happily. (Both that and

team_sga are posting in May. It will be a nice month for fic!) And I'm currently on the fence about signing up for

sgabigbang when signups go live (they haven't yet), leaning weakly towards the "yes" side right now.

I also have a request to make, and I don't think it's a particularly big one. I know there are quite a few people on my f'list who have fallen out with the show, or various aspects of the show, for various reasons. Of course I respect your right to feel that way, and of course you can post whatever you like in your own journal or elsewhere and I certainly won't think less of you for it, but when you're here, please don't harsh on my affection for it (i.e. please don't tell me how much you hate it, how much you hate character Y or writer Z or whatever), and please don't blame or insult your fellow fans for being on the wrong "side", either. The fact that I'm asking you to be good to the show while you're here does NOT mean that it's open season on everyone who has grievances with it. My blog, my rules.

Having said that, I have to get up in *checks* oh hell, five and a half hours, so I believe it's time for bed!

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Yay! More stories to look forward to from you!! *pushes you towards Big Bang* :)

I'm glad you refound your love for the show, but of course I would have remained a friend even if you remained out of love with it!

I was tempted by a prompt over at team_sga but I'm not so good at team fics - any of my stories that might fall into that category tend to do so by accident! Maybe if they run it again next year I'll have more confidence in being able to consciously write a team fic instead of centring in on Rodney and adding the others as necessary, as is my more normal style.

Ah, to be an 'equal opportunity' writer one day!

I really am thinking about Big Bang; I only wrote one long story last year (the one with Naye) and I think only one the year before, and I'm tired of banging my head against WIPs that aren't really going anywhere. I like the idea of starting with a clean slate and doing a shiny new long story; I haven't done that in a long time, and this gives me an incentive to actually get it done!

And it was THE best story of that Big Bang for me.

*grin* I was persuaded to sign-up for

team_sga too, because there was a PIRATES!!!! prompt and lo, I am weak :)

So glad you've got the happy back. My plan for the next few months is to potter and enjoy myself - there's some SGA stuff in the works along with other fannish pursuits *coughSPNcough* and it's actually nice to have the closed canon so that I can contemplate and like you, rediscover why I watched in the first place. All the enthusiasm is bubbling away underneath, but right now, it's nice being mellow :) I'm definitely going to enjoy your 'up' posts now you're feeling bouncier!

That's quite the list of fics! I have a timetable at the moment, so I'm working on something for an SGA Gen fanzine while I wait for some kind of clue about my

sga_genficathon prompt. May is going to be AWESOME!

There cannot be too many pirate AUs. *nods*

I think that just disengaging from the intense emotions of the fandom for a couple of months helped a lot, as well as thinking about the show in terms of other closed-canon fandoms I've had before. I've fanned on a lot of shows and movies and anime that would have been massively disappointing if I hadn't known "that's all there is, they're never going to do this cool thing or explain that mystery over there" and then worked from that point onwards. (There's one manga, in fact, that converted me to being a fan with the very last installment ... out of something like 300. Granted, I hadn't actually read all of those prior to converting to the fan-love, but if it was still ongoing, I doubt if I'd enjoy it nearly as much; instead I look back on it with a lot of fondness.)

Oooh, what manga is this? I am curious!

Hee! It's Yu-Gi-Oh. I talked about it a little bit here (http://xparrot.livejournal.com/29930.html?thread=373226#t373226) at Emilie's LJ, some years back. I liked the ending enough that it made me re-evaluate the rest of the series in a more positive light -- not that I'd *hated* it, certainly, but it didn't really grab me until the emotional intensity of the last part of the final arc got to me.

whale*cough*verse*cough*

Hee! You know, Naye and I noodled ideas for a sequel before she went to Japan. Now that I'm interested in writing for the show again, maybe I ought to shake the 'verse gently and see what falls out ...

*Shakes friendshipper VIGOROUSLY*

Hey, I didn't say anything about shaking *ME*. XD

Yay! *happy dances* I'm so thrilled you've found your love for SGA again. As

leesa_perrie said, I would have remained a friend otherwise, but I'm selfishly happy to know we'll be getting more fic out of you.

I've finally (finally!) come up with an idea for the

sga_genficathon which you know I'm looking forward to, and I hope to participate in Big Bang this year. My beta has forbidden me from signing up for anything else until I finish the 2 other fics I'm working on. *will not look at

team_sga, will not look at

team_sga*

*smushy hug*

*smiles* Thank you! I do hope I would've stayed in touch regardless, as I plan to stay in touch with those friends of mine who've either dropped out of the fandom or exist in parts of it that I don't feel comfortable. But I'm very glad that so many of the "regulars" are sticking around, at least for now. We do have a nice fandom, and now that the show's over, I hope the volatility will settle down too. And there is still so much to explore!

I also caved and signed up for team_sga's AU Team Fest. . .

Dud(ette), I forgot about this already. *sigh* That does not bode well for me getting my fic done on time. :/

Hee! Well, it's still two months, and it doesn't have to be a long fic ...!

(I wrote the first part of mine, and then put it down for a while and totally forgot where I was planning on going with the rest of it. Oops.)

It makes me so glad to read such a happy post of yours! ♥

You know what? I still love our team. A LOT! It's different now that the show is gone, but - I find my creativity and my thoughts still stray their way, and that says it all, doesn't it?

♥♥♥

whale*cough*verse*cough*

Oh, the Whaleverse. Some of the most fun I've ever had in any fandom, ever. And we did have that idea for another story...! We'll see. Maybe after Japan!

I do too! I'm noodling around with a longer post on closed-canon fandoms, springboarding off my comment on your story, but I think there's a lot to be said for knowing "this is all there is", getting over the disappointment of never getting a scene like [x] or a proper explanation of [y], and then moving on to play in the (really very large) spaces that are left over.

After how long I've been in the fandom, the characters have really worked their way into my head; even when I wasn't feeling fannish about them, I still had trouble staying away from the fic. I get the feeling that even if I do eventually find something that makes me wander away, this will be a "go back and revisit" fandom for me. ^_^

(And someday -- though not for Big Bang, PLEASE NO *g* -- we ought to go back and do that Whaleverse Ronon story we were talking about!)

And Atlantis is such a wonderful playground! All shiny and beautiful and so full of possibilities...! ♥

Oooh, the Ronon story! Yes! I really did love the imagery we had going for that one - and the whole concept, too, of getting to explore our Pegasus some more. Though I agree - Big Bang is a fairly gigantic commitment, and I'm happier just dabbling about on my own time, I think.

Yay! Glad to hear you are back in it! :) I so love SGA still. I also want to write more fanfic and get more in the practice. I'm going to a fanfic con even, figuring if I hate the con I'll lock myself in the hotel room and just write all day, lol. :)

We need some virtual seasons. Do they exist?

Oh, right, you're going to Writercon! How exciting! :D I really hope you have fun. :)

Virtual seasons -- there's

sga_s5plus, which is basically episode synopses and "screencaps" and other supporting material as if the show were continuing, rather than stories. I believe that there was a project to do virtual seasons at the end of season three (ignoring season 4+ canon) that was organized by Elizabeth fans, but I don't know if it got off the ground.

Despite having done a virtual season for a show awhile back, I tend to not enjoy the organized ones all that much, though I've been in several fandoms that had them; I think that it's really hard to keep them from devolving into arguments between different groups of people who want to go in different directions. I like the "what if?" nature of individual fanfics better.

yay! glad you're back. If you feel like pretending the show hasn't really ended, come over to

sga_s5plus where Stargate Atlantis: The Imaginary Season carries on

I'm aware of it and I think it's a cool project, but I can't really read it because it's actually ... depressing me even more by reminding me that there isn't any more, and that it wouldn't have been that cool even if there had been. *g* I think I prefer the non-fourth-wall-breaking of actual fic rather than the conscious reminder that it's a TV show, if that makes any sense ...?

awwwwww. No, I totally get the fragility of fannish love sometimes and the desire to protect it. Stay in your happy place and write lots and lots. *g*

Am glad that you are on a SGA up---- I can understand how the show and it's fandom gets its hooks into you.
thank you for the many fics and recs over the years.... hope you stay on a permanent up!!!

You're welcome! :) I'm not going to "never say never" (as in, "I'll never leave") because I have no idea if something new and shiny will come along to steal my fan-love away, but I was looking at the general characteristics of things I fan heavily on, and I really don't see anything with that particular combination of characteristics coming along anytime soon.

Glad to see you back in love! YAY! Means more writing from you and I can reclaim your LJ as a safe fandomzone again because it's scary world out there and it's amazing how much an influence it can have :-P

Sometimes it just takes space and distance. And let's face it, writing for SGA is like a drug :D

Now where's my fix? Heh.

**happy dances**

It does appear to me that the core people in the gen fandom (which always *was* pretty small and mellow compared to the wider fandom anyway) are staying put; I'm happy to be a part of that.

I was thinking about the general qualities of things that catch and hold my magpie-like fan love, and there's a fairly unique set of characteristics (it includes likable and very human characters against an epic-sized backdrop, with lots of space for me as a writer to do sci-fi world-building) -- and unless I get hooked that way on another manga, I just don't see anything coming along on American TV in the next few years that's likely to catch my imagination that way. Besides, after three years, SGA has pretty much settled into my subconscious; even when I was deeply unhappy with the show and fandom, I still had a hard time staying away from the fic.

I'm glad to hear you've rediscovered your love for SGA, as it's always wrenching to wind up disliking something that becomes such a large part of your life. Although I probably would've stuck around either way, because I find a lot of your non-SGA posts fascinating and thought-provoking.

I'm really looking forward to

sga_genficathon (as evidenced by my inordinate love for my prompt), although I'll probably have to stay away from

team_sga because I think my plate's pretty full as it is. I'm still on the fence about

sgabigbang myself, but I'll hopefully know if I have time for it by the time sign-ups start.

Awww, thanks! :D

I'm glad you got a genficathon prompt you liked; some people are really having trouble. (I blame the dice ...)

*very much glee*

It makes me happy to see that you have regained your squee, and selfishly happy that I can read more Sholio-SGA-fic, and I'm still debating if I dare sign up for Team_SGA. Since I already have an AU team fic started, and all...

Well, especially if it fits one of the prompts at the ficfest ... you should! :D *tempts*

Oh boy. Now I'm gonna have to sign up for the Team AU fest. It looks like too much fun to miss! And at least it looks like none of my fic-ly obligations are going to be due at the same time . . .

And I'm so glad you're happy with SGA again! It's just a gleeful place, usually.

Yay! I hope you do! There was lots of fantastic fic and art in the fest last year. :D

How did you do it?
I really do miss this fandom, but I seem to have troubles getting back to where I was a year ago. So ... what got you to rekindle the love?

Um ... I wish I could tell you. I think part of it was making myself get involved in fannish volunteer activities even when I didn't really want to -- running the Genficathon again, reccing fics, beta'ing, stuff like that. Part of it was setting up a writing filter, so that I didn't have to finish something in order to post and get feedback on it, so I was still noodling around with fic ideas. The fact that half my f'list was still posting on sga-related topics, so I couldn't avoid it even when I wanted to, probably had something to do with it too ... it's hard to drop out of fandom when most of the people that I was interacting with socially were still talking about it.

I'm not really sure what would work for you, but the fan-volunteerism definitely made a big difference for me, I think.

YAY!! Doing the happy feet dance for you and your happy sga place! LOL! It's very satisfying to know there will be more sholio fic coming soon! And for several different challenges! I don't know how you do it... me, I'm basically a one story at a time person, but you are my hero! And I'm happy to say I've got my story going for the sga genficathon prompt FINALLY!!! LOL! I was sure I'd have to ask for another one!

Keep on writing and I'll keep on reading!

I'm glad you've re-discovered your love for the fandom, and I mean that in all sincerity.

I sort of wish I could get that back; I've largely fallen out of love with both the show and with fandom. My problem is that I can't un-know something, and being aware of the backstory behind the show makes it much harder to watch. I've also got a show that isn't perfect my any means, but that doesn't make me angry more often than I enjoy it. I can write Leverage fic and feel like I'm taking the characters in a place that's different than where the writers will go, rather than trying to fix something that I think was done wrong.

*nods* I can totally see where you're coming from, I really can, and I know that people who are feeling angry and burned by the show have very, very valid reasons for it. There are things that I have to very deliberately not think about in order to still feel fannish affection for the show, and I really wish it wasn't that way -- I guess I'm trying to walk a line here, because I still want to play in that sandbox but I don't want to alienate people who have absolutely valid reasons for avoiding the show and/or fandom.

But I'm very, very glad for you that you've found a happy place that *isn't* burning you that way; I wish that I liked the show more, because a lot of my flist seems to be really into it right now. Maybe it'll grow on me with more episodes; sometimes it takes awhile. I want to be able to come play with you guys in the Leverage pool, too!

*hugs you*

p.s. do you have any recommendations for Leverage fic that doesn't spoil later episodes too badly? Who knows, since I'm not fond of the show but like the characters (well, some of them), maybe this would work for me as a fic-only fandom. I would love anything with Hardison and/or Parker if there are some good stories out there.

You know, it's so much easier to love a fandom that's not constantly in arms over something that happened (or didn't happen) in a new episode every week. *G* That's pretty much the upside of closed canon: it's so much better for the health in general and the nerves in particular. ;-)

"Hi, my name is Pat and I love SGA." *g*

Awesome! I'm so happy for you and that SGA is still a happy place for you:D And on a selfish note, that you'll be writing more stuff! ;)

I'm glad you got your shiny back!

I too am so happy to hear you found the shiny again... happy for you, and for the rest of us too! :)

I thought about reccing h/c at ficrec, too, and AU, once I have time again (two more weeks). And I signed up to rec Jennifer. I got this whole list of recs, only makes sense to post them where more people can see them.

I'm very much looking forward to genficathon!

omg yay! you have no idea how happy that makes me. I am not quite over the ending yet but I love the wonderful parts of the show THIS much and I've been thinking on the bus today about what a great character Rodney is, just on his own even without the SF concept that I love behind it and anyway-- just seeing you being happy about it is lovely because I know you'll rec good fic and maybe even -- dare I hope? -- write good fic! :D

Yea! From a purely selfish perspective I'm glad to see that you found your SGA love again - it means more fic from you.

*evil grin* Our work here is done ;-)

I'm fanning Leverage! I love them all *flails and squees*

You know my view on other people's journal's :) Glad the love is back, bring on the squee!

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