That's a really good point! I forgot he never actually knew about it.
Londo's marriages generally slip my mind because they have so little to do with his emotional life, but that episode does a lot to sell him and Timov as a couple, if not a romantic one—they both prefer honesty and Londo as always builds the strongest relationships with the people who call him on his shenanigans—which is a sufficiently neat dynamic that I would not have minded seeing her return for the Centauri arc of Season 4, although it's not like there was a lot of spare room in those episodes even for the actual plot.
I'm glad I asked, because all the rest of this meta is just thoroughly wonderful and I want to absorb it through my pores.
Aaagh thank you! I really don't have any difficulty in letting this show take over my brain. I appreciate your encouragement of it.
The dead on Narn don't have a face (though his guilt as personified by G'Kar in the dream does put details to those deaths as well, to some extent). But the guilt of knowing he stood by and watched someone he knows and likes, someone he's coming to care about, beaten and brutalized almost to death, and did nothing, is absolutely drowning him.
Zero disagreement, that's beautifully put, and it feels crucial that in addition to all of his other functions in this dream-quest of Londo's, G'Kar is important as himself. He has to be. The whole thing falls apart if it's just, in Vir's words, a metaphor.
I love this analysis and I think it tracks perfectly. I hadn't been able to parse all the levels the show was going for with the roleswap (beyond simply Londo wanting to make himself suffer what G'Kar suffered), but I think you're exactly right.
Thank you! It's just an episode with a ton in it. And wasn't nominated for a thing.
I think in particular, he's not really that comfortable being on the receiving end (he's perfectly capable of being a sarcastic little shit, provided he's in control of the situation; not really so much with being made fun of).
Agreed! He is an effortless snarker! But G'Kar is really the only person he'll take it from in return.
(Vir can be amazingly sarcastic, but usually in the third person.)
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Londo's marriages generally slip my mind because they have so little to do with his emotional life, but that episode does a lot to sell him and Timov as a couple, if not a romantic one—they both prefer honesty and Londo as always builds the strongest relationships with the people who call him on his shenanigans—which is a sufficiently neat dynamic that I would not have minded seeing her return for the Centauri arc of Season 4, although it's not like there was a lot of spare room in those episodes even for the actual plot.
I'm glad I asked, because all the rest of this meta is just thoroughly wonderful and I want to absorb it through my pores.
Aaagh thank you! I really don't have any difficulty in letting this show take over my brain. I appreciate your encouragement of it.
The dead on Narn don't have a face (though his guilt as personified by G'Kar in the dream does put details to those deaths as well, to some extent). But the guilt of knowing he stood by and watched someone he knows and likes, someone he's coming to care about, beaten and brutalized almost to death, and did nothing, is absolutely drowning him.
Zero disagreement, that's beautifully put, and it feels crucial that in addition to all of his other functions in this dream-quest of Londo's, G'Kar is important as himself. He has to be. The whole thing falls apart if it's just, in Vir's words, a metaphor.
I love this analysis and I think it tracks perfectly. I hadn't been able to parse all the levels the show was going for with the roleswap (beyond simply Londo wanting to make himself suffer what G'Kar suffered), but I think you're exactly right.
Thank you! It's just an episode with a ton in it. And wasn't nominated for a thing.
I think in particular, he's not really that comfortable being on the receiving end (he's perfectly capable of being a sarcastic little shit, provided he's in control of the situation; not really so much with being made fun of).
Agreed! He is an effortless snarker! But G'Kar is really the only person he'll take it from in return.
(Vir can be amazingly sarcastic, but usually in the third person.)