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A couple more stray thoughts on the Foundation S2 finale
Big spoilers. Obviously. Also, if I keep posting about it, I may need an icon instead of reusing my other space show ones.
1. Salvor's death annoys me more the more I think about it. It's just such ... bullshit! I don't even want fix-its because I just don't want to think about it at all! It annoys me especially because some of the other deaths at the end of the season were so well thought out and dramatic and thematically appropriate, and then Salvor just dies randomly after the fighting is over. She may as well have fallen down the stairs and hit her head on a rock.
In randomly browsing for news on S3 (renewed! yay!) I saw an article/interview/thing in which one of TPTB says that Salvor dies to prove that the future is not written in stone and Gaal's visions don't have to come true, but. Like.
First of all, there are so many other ways they could have done this! You had all season to set it up! They could've had a distinctive building in the background of the Mule flash-forward that gets damaged or destroyed in the fighting in the past, or Gaal having a particular keepsake or object on her that gets destroyed, or a previously never-seen OC in the vision that she meets on Ignis who then dies. Anything!!
Second, Salvor's death is so out of nowhere and unrelated to any intentional decision-making on their part that it doesn't really imply anything about Gaal's visions except that they could change randomly based on literally anything. It'd be different if they did something on purpose to prove the future can be changed, but this just spontaneously dropped into their laps as the result of a string of events that have nothing to do with Gaal's vision at all. It feels so random.
In conclusion, I hate it! And I say this in context of other deaths in the finale that I didn't hate.
2. There's not much I want in the way of fic for this show (and the existing fic is an absolute wasteland, it's pretty much all Cleon/Reader and that kind of thing) but there are a couple of specific things I do want. I'm writing this down at least partly in the hopes that I can remember it long enough to request it in whatever the next exchange is that comes along.
a) Bel/Glawen fixits. I just want them to get a happy ending. T_T I would really be all over something in which he makes it off the exploding ship somehow - and there are a lot of ways that could happen, even though I doubt he'd come voluntarily (he's not going to leave his crew). But there are any number of technological devices around, as well as Deus Ex Math (and in their universe, it seems that math can do anything up to and including resurrecting the dead under certain circumstances). I would also be all over a more classic scenario such as an underworld rescue or the like. Maybe whatever planet Glawen ends up on has a Mysterious Cave Portal to the Underworld or something! I just want presumed dead to turn into not actually dead, as much as I was okay with the actual death and the way it happened.
b) Aftermath with the Terminus survivors. I would honestly love h/c with Constant and her dads, because I found myself crushing inappropriately on Sef Sermak all season (I know he's an antagonist and I don't know if we're supposed to like him, but ... emotionally repressed bundle of issues who is completely soft for his adorable daughter; I was gone) and the h/c setup there with him is pure gold. But even aside from that, I wouldn't mind something more ensemble-y about the Vault arriving on Ignis (their supposed destination according to Gaal's flash-forward), or wherever they end up, and everyone having to start rebuilding from scratch, dealing with grief for all the people who did actually die (the Invictus crew and the ones who were shot by Day's soldiers, etc), Glawen awkwardly integrating into the community with people he was actively trying to kill not that long ago, and so forth. It would make for excellent coping with trauma, rebuilding after disaster fic, and unfortunately no one is writing it, which may force me to write it myself.
1. Salvor's death annoys me more the more I think about it. It's just such ... bullshit! I don't even want fix-its because I just don't want to think about it at all! It annoys me especially because some of the other deaths at the end of the season were so well thought out and dramatic and thematically appropriate, and then Salvor just dies randomly after the fighting is over. She may as well have fallen down the stairs and hit her head on a rock.
In randomly browsing for news on S3 (renewed! yay!) I saw an article/interview/thing in which one of TPTB says that Salvor dies to prove that the future is not written in stone and Gaal's visions don't have to come true, but. Like.
First of all, there are so many other ways they could have done this! You had all season to set it up! They could've had a distinctive building in the background of the Mule flash-forward that gets damaged or destroyed in the fighting in the past, or Gaal having a particular keepsake or object on her that gets destroyed, or a previously never-seen OC in the vision that she meets on Ignis who then dies. Anything!!
Second, Salvor's death is so out of nowhere and unrelated to any intentional decision-making on their part that it doesn't really imply anything about Gaal's visions except that they could change randomly based on literally anything. It'd be different if they did something on purpose to prove the future can be changed, but this just spontaneously dropped into their laps as the result of a string of events that have nothing to do with Gaal's vision at all. It feels so random.
In conclusion, I hate it! And I say this in context of other deaths in the finale that I didn't hate.
2. There's not much I want in the way of fic for this show (and the existing fic is an absolute wasteland, it's pretty much all Cleon/Reader and that kind of thing) but there are a couple of specific things I do want. I'm writing this down at least partly in the hopes that I can remember it long enough to request it in whatever the next exchange is that comes along.
a) Bel/Glawen fixits. I just want them to get a happy ending. T_T I would really be all over something in which he makes it off the exploding ship somehow - and there are a lot of ways that could happen, even though I doubt he'd come voluntarily (he's not going to leave his crew). But there are any number of technological devices around, as well as Deus Ex Math (and in their universe, it seems that math can do anything up to and including resurrecting the dead under certain circumstances). I would also be all over a more classic scenario such as an underworld rescue or the like. Maybe whatever planet Glawen ends up on has a Mysterious Cave Portal to the Underworld or something! I just want presumed dead to turn into not actually dead, as much as I was okay with the actual death and the way it happened.
b) Aftermath with the Terminus survivors. I would honestly love h/c with Constant and her dads, because I found myself crushing inappropriately on Sef Sermak all season (I know he's an antagonist and I don't know if we're supposed to like him, but ... emotionally repressed bundle of issues who is completely soft for his adorable daughter; I was gone) and the h/c setup there with him is pure gold. But even aside from that, I wouldn't mind something more ensemble-y about the Vault arriving on Ignis (their supposed destination according to Gaal's flash-forward), or wherever they end up, and everyone having to start rebuilding from scratch, dealing with grief for all the people who did actually die (the Invictus crew and the ones who were shot by Day's soldiers, etc), Glawen awkwardly integrating into the community with people he was actively trying to kill not that long ago, and so forth. It would make for excellent coping with trauma, rebuilding after disaster fic, and unfortunately no one is writing it, which may force me to write it myself.
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(Uncharacteristically skipping the spoilers because what the hell, it's a narrative about the shape-changing future, I'll meet it when I meet it for once.)
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There is a definitely possibility! At least about certain things which are calling to me ...
I'm looking forward to you being surprised and I hope you enjoy the journey!
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Well, since historical evidence suggests non-zero overlap on the part of our interests, I look forward!
I'm looking forward to you being surprised and I hope you enjoy the journey!
So far, so good!
(Among other elements, I am enjoying an ensemble show where I like multiple of the protagonists and the supporting cast.)
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Yes! I love that too. And I've really been engaged in all the storylines, even when they're swapping through several different ones in a given episode. It's such a fun show and I'm really delighted they're coming back for a third season.
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We are not having any difficulty following the braided narratives or the jumps in the timeline; they actually feel to me like a very good way to get the depth of time and breadth of space across to the viewer from the start. I can't tell yet if each season will focus itself around a Seldon crisis or how it will handle the wider scope of the books.
It's such a fun show and I'm really delighted they're coming back for a third season.
I saw that Alexander Siddig has been recast from his first-season one-shot and I am delighted.
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#justiceforsalvor
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Make her the Warden of No Longer Terminus! Seriously, their last acting warden was dramatically incinerated and their new one has been on the job for a couple of weeks tops and Salvor canonically walks the perimeter to de-stress! I have no idea how she would find them, but that does not strike me as much of a hindrance on a show where last season she went into cryosleep for a century at the bottom of the sea and was fished out by her never-met mom! (Do it with the Prime Radiant, which is a back door to the Vault and in three places at once now?) Would leave the plot-fruitful question of whether she could still turn up ironically in the future of Gaal's vision if she planned to live out the rest of her natural life safeguarding the first Foundation while Gaal and Hari built and guided the Second, would keep all three of them in parallel as if in the same thread even on different planets, and we could find out what became of her next season by report or by presence depending on the actor's availability. Cut me a check already, Apple TV+.
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Alas, I would be forced to read it.
(I am surprised there is not more fic about Gaal and Hari in one another's minds because drift compatibility is a goddamn tag on AO3 and even after their established connection through mathematics and the build-up this season that proximity to other mentalics strengthens psychic powers to the point where Salvor whose sensitivity has heretofore been limited to cold reading and split-second instincts can hear her dinner screaming, I wasn't expecting the trick of Hari's survival to be "mentally linked with Gaal who was working a one-woman illusion worthy of the Church of the Galactic Spirit" and the possibilities in light of their canonically twisty relationship are plentiful!)