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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2020-10-04 10:01 pm

Dresden Files #17: Battle Ground


Okay, first of all, that was too many battle scenes. That was way too many battle scenes. Put some back. XD

I actually got to the point after a few chapters when I lost interest and put the book down for a while, and then started skimming and spot-checking to see if anything other than MORE DAMN BATTLE was going to happen ever, and eventually tuned back in when character stuff started happening again. I like a good action scene as much as the next gal, but I think this would've been a much stronger book if the battle scenes had been cut down by about 80% and this book had been combined with the previous book. Apparently they were slated originally to be one book and it got too long, but I feel as if it could easily have lost the majority of the battle without actually suffering for it. There's "show, don't tell" and then there's whatever that was.

But then in the end I actually loved this book a lot, and I'm full of good feelings right now. I'm thoroughly fascinated by how my reaction to this book represents a complete turnaround from a couple of years ago in how I relate to fiction. For years and years, I used to really like complex, dark, and bittersweet in my fiction. And then I did a slow turnaround to just wanting things to be happy. Back in 2017-18 I just wanted happy endings, all the happy endings, fluff forever. I thought it was a permanent change in my reading/viewing tastes, due to getting older and losing people and wanting more escapism from my fiction.

But it's been reversing lately, and in the course of reading this book, I found myself getting just as many good feelings off the sad/hopeful motif of losing someone you really care about and moving on and finding good things in the world again. That was nicely done here, and Mab's comment in particular about how you can't get stuck in the past, you have to open up to someone again eventually, and she knows this because of having buried many lovers herself was just- the perfect mix of cynical and sympathetic and true. I mean, I'm not even actually sad (much) that this book killed off one of the series regulars. I'm relishing the darkly sweet aftertaste instead. Not that I don't still enjoy a happy ending when I can get it, but I guess my taste for dark and bittersweet has swung back again without me noticing it.

I think it's not just that I felt like I could never enjoy anything dark ever again; it's that a couple of years ago I think the death of a main character in a long-running series would have saddened me all out of proportion to any pleasure I got out of reading it, and there's none of that this time around.

The actual death ... I'm still stunned that Murphy died, and also surprised that I'm not that sad about it. She got a good death scene and a good ending. I hope she raises holy hell in Valhalla. I like the extra twist that all living memory of her must fade first, though - so it really is sad, it is a parting, but one that offers something for her on the other side.

It was a complete narrative shock, though. I figured she had plot armor. I really believed she and Harry were the series' endgame pairing.

And then I fell into hardcore Harry/Lara ship feelings in the length of time it took Mab to say "arranged marriage." Both Lara and Mab really shone in the last couple of books - I think they're among my favorite characters now, which is interesting since I don't normally go for the darker characters, but uh ... pleasedon'tkillme I actually ship Harry/Lara harder than I ever did Harry/Murphy, even though I loved Murphy on her own. And I think Lara is going to fit very well with Harry as the darker, more powerful character that he is as Mab's Winter Knight. I know that there's no telling how things will go from here, but I really enjoyed Harry and Lara's teamwork and their tense-angry-uneasy truce in the past couple of books, and whether this thing between them evolves into an actual romance or just a "reluctantly friendly allies/in-laws who fight Walkers together and are technically married for political reasons" kind of situation, I am really looking forward to it.

I cannot WAIT until Thomas finds out. And is no longer in a magic coma. Come on, book.

Other highlights: that was a good death fakeout on the Carpenters. "You forgot the dog." So good, in fact, that I am going to have to remember that particular trick for my own future writing. (Also, I think this is actually the FOURTH time in this series that Butcher has, for real and for sure, convinced me that he's killed Michael, only to have it be a fakeout. One of these days it's going to be real and I won't believe it ...)

I actually sort of liked Marcone in this book. I know, I can't believe it either. Very good reveal on him too. And on Justine. And the end scene was a very nice dose of sweetness to lighten the bittersweet.

There were things I didn't like about this book (way too much battle; many issues I had with the actual staging of the battle - "punch things" is a fucking stupid battle strategy when you have a bunch of incredibly high-powered people with varied skills at your disposal; I dislike it when superhero media does this, and I wasn't fond of it here; the sheer logistical stupidity of taking a full day for the Army to show up (it's Chicago, not Antarctica); and, finally, a smidge too much implied!Jesus for me). But the last, oh, quarter of the book actually was strong enough to make up for how draggy and logistically implausible I found the earlier parts.

And I cannot wait for the next one. CANON MIRROR UNIVERSE. This is going to be AMAZING.
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[personal profile] schneefink 2020-10-05 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I had not heard this about the next book's plot and am very excited!

I agree, there were way too many battle scenes. Several of them could easily have been cut. And if it had been one book instead of two the whole thing would have felt more, hm, cohesive?, instead each of the two felt lacking in some aspects, and as a result, while I did enjoy them, I didn't love them as much as I think I could have.

I did not expect Harry/Lara arranged marriage! I think I would really enjoy them as close allies and friends who are technically married (and probably fuck sometimes); I'm way more skeptical about the idea of an actual romance between them. But I'm open to future books convincing me that it could work.
And yes, Thomas finding out will be great xD Hopefully soon.
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[personal profile] sovay 2020-10-05 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
and, finally, a smidge too much implied!Jesus for me

I had such mixed feelings about Butters becoming a Knight of the Cross for all the obvious reasons, but may I inquire as to how he's doing? (Have not read Peace Talks, continue to be one hundred percent spoiler-indifferent, witness my commenting on this post at all.)
Edited 2020-10-05 21:55 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sovay 2020-10-05 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
But this book made it evident that his sword is the most powerful one out of the set, so that's pretty neat, and it was interesting to see him in action in the middle of a high-level fight.

That does sound cool! It is presumably obvious from space that I imprinted on Butters like whoa.
Edited 2020-10-05 23:24 (UTC)
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[personal profile] winter_elf 2020-10-06 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Aw man. Thanks for letting me know going in who the death is. I'm pretty bummed about who :( bleah. Does he kill off anyone else? Yes, I am asking for spoilers. I would rather be forewarned than surprised. You can do that black out thing ( I don't know how to do that), or pm me.

Huh, the next one does sound more interesting than this one of constant battle. I didn't catch him talking about the next one on the author zoom chat he did for our local indie bookstore.
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[personal profile] sheron 2020-10-07 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I figure anyone reading the comments has either read the book or doesn't mind.

Hi.

XD

Actually knowing D/M is not the endgame pairing made me want to read the books more. I kind of really didn't go for them as romantic partners (I totally imprinted on them as BFFs in the earlier books) so this might work for me.

I didn't read the rest of the spoilers aside from the battle scene bit, so I have the rest of the book to look forward to. (I haven't read the previous one either, but luckily local library to the rescue once again)
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[personal profile] alessandriana 2020-12-30 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Finally finished this one a couple months late, and OOF. Yeah, way too many battle scenes! It felt like he thought he needed to include every single character from previous books, and it was just overwhelming. When everything is a crowning moment of awesome... nothing is?

I'm a pretty mixed bag of feelings about the rest of the book, so I'll stop there! But MAN.