sholio | Spiderman 2 & 3

I need a good geek icon. Oh well, young Rodney will have to do.

We watched Spiderman 2 & 3 (for the first time, and I still haven't seen the first movie; I know, I am the world's worst nerd). My observations on the movies can best be described as "affectionately snarky".

Here is what we learned from these movies:

- If you are a villain and discover your better nature, you are going to die.

- It's lucky for New York that Spider-Man is around, because the emergency services are totally useless and OSHA hasn't inspected anything since 1978. (The particle accelerator experiment in the third movie, or whatever it is -- the big open pit thing that Sandman falls into -- slayed us. THAT CANNOT BE LEGAL.)

- All the main characters are really dumb. Maybe the Spider-Man costume kills brain cells. The secondary cast, on the other hand, are completely awesome. Not only did they nail the physical appearance and personalities of all the characters from the comics (Jameson, OMG!) but they really got some first-rate actors for the bit parts, like the landlord's daughter (I loved her!) with her adorable crush on Peter.

- CGI really improved a lot between 2002 and 2007.

The movies are beautifully staged. Okay, I admit it -- I'm a comic book fan, I have been since the 1980s, and I was totally geeking out on the way that they framed the camera angles to mimic the way that Marvel comic panels are staged (extreme up and down shots, and so forth). And all of Spider-Man's body language was so fantastically similar to how he's drawn in the comic. As comic book movies go, they really did an awesome job of bringing the comics to life and staying true to the spirit of the original without being horribly, overtly cheesy. (Tongue-in-cheek and cheerfully silly, which is what they ended up with, is just fine with me.)

Also, would it really have been so hard for Peter to web over to the hospital at the end of the third movie rather than standing around watching Harry bleed to death in MJ's arms? Come on ... it's not like he didn't have time to TRY.

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Heh I snarked so much when my boyfriend took me to Spiderman 2 that he refused to let me see #3. I think it would've broken us LOL

Awww, you missed darkside Toby Maguire trying to look evil by combing his hair forward! :D I found the movies very entertaining and absolutely hilarious to make fun of. It helped that we were watching them at home, so we could giggle and snark as much as we wanted.

It's lucky for New York that Spider-Man is around, because the emergency services are totally useless and OSHA hasn't inspected anything since 1978.

But then, isn't this true of any superhero-infested city anywhere? (

gnine has long had a story idea about a superhero coming to a seemingly hero-less city, only to be shut down by a crusading cop who makes sure all superheroes either move out or join the force, as their presence makes the police lazy...)

I still haven't seen Spiderman 3. 1 & 2 were fun (and gorgeous to look at, I totally agree) but they were missing the...something...that made me love X-men 1-2 (3 doesn't exist) and Batman Begins (and Dark Knight will come to Japan eventually...) I'm not quite sure what it is. I don't think it's actually brain cells (like I said, X-men)...(most of my geek guy-friends love the Spiderman movies as much as the other superhero movies, while as most of my geek girl-friends are more blase about Spidey. It's maybe that Spiderman is ultimate geek guy fantasy, the nerd making it big and getting the hot chick; while the angst of the other movies is different/more existential/sexier...?)

Superhero-infested. Hee.

I think the X-Men movies are my favorites of the current crop of superhero fare (of the ones I've seen, anyhow; like I said, I'm a bad geek). Though the Spidey movies are great brain popcorn, they didn't do a whole lot for me on an emotional level. For me, at least, the characters in the X-Men movies are a lot more interesting -- maybe not deeper, exactly, but more sympathetic, or at least more emotionally engaging. I've never gone for the pretty boy/pretty girl next door type of character. In the Spidey movies I found myself a lot more interested in the supporting cast than in the supposed main characters, as much fun as it was to watch Spider-Man websling around the city.

Did you see the part in the second movie where they stopped nuclear fission (was it fission? I can't quite remember) by DUMPING IT IN THE EAST RIVER?

I went and was that at the dollar theater with three chemists and we completely failed at not laughing hysterically when they did that.

(it's a shame because the first movie was actually very good. I felt it went downhill after)

Oh, wow, yes; though by that time the science and logic centers of my brain had pretty much turned off and I was just going with it.

Still haven't seen the first one. Though I admit that I enjoyed these two, it didn't really make me want to run out and collect the whole franchise.

The particle accelerator experiment in the third movie, or whatever it is -- the big open pit thing that Sandman falls into -- slayed us. THAT CANNOT BE LEGAL.
Yes! That always bothered me!

And Harry's death! Couldn't Peter do anything? Maybe use the webbing as bandages?

Yeah, for pete's sake, earlier in the VERY SAME MOVIE, while they were still enemies no less, he rushed Harry to the hospital when Harry was clinically dead after suffering an approximately 70-story fall, and it worked! (The police in this town are utterly useless, but the doctors must really kick ass.) And then he just stands there and waits for Harry to bleed to death? I can think of about a half-dozen perfectly reasonable things he could have done (take him to the hospital, try to bandage him, have someone call an ambulance or a helicopter...).

On the other hand, the whole franchise would be a lot shorter if the characters had any sort of rudimentary reasoning ability ...

My TJ loves spidey but refuses to acknowledge anything but the movies because MJ isn't in the cartoon! A 6yo shipper :D

edit: sorry typo :(

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