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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2020-01-20 02:19 pm

DNF because DNW

Continuing to try to write more about books ...

Just One Damned Thing After Another by Jodi Taylor is a cute, funny book about zany time-traveling historians, with an engaging heroine and ensemble cast and clever, fun narrative voice ... that I DNF'd halfway through last night because of a rape attempt on the heroine by a trusted male friend in a particularly squicky scenario. (Followed by even more squick. See below cut.)

In general, I'm not actually that offput by rape as a narrative or backstory device. I mean, it's not my favorite thing, I am totally fine if it's left off the table as an option even in circumstances when it would be likely, but like character death, it's something that (narratively speaking) works for me in some instances and I'm willing to read past in others. It's rarely an automatic DNF. But I guess it does depend on how it goes down, and I think in this case I ran headlong into a wall of NOPE because I really wasn't expecting it, and because the way it went down was both too real-worldish for a light, fun novel about time-traveling historians, and, well, intensely squicky.


Basically, she wakes up to her male colleague trying to rape her in her sleep. She then learns that he's been recording her sleeping and himself jacking off to her while she's sleeping. THEN he tries to murder her to cover up the rape, gets killed himself in a particularly gruesome way (dismemberment by velociraptor after being stabbed in the femoral artery in raptor country), and turns out to be a traitor working for Team Bad Guy who was also undermining her and cribbing off her work.

That was. A lot.

... I think individually, and minus the squickiest aspects of the scenario (apparently I have discovered a brand new giant squick! WHO KNEW!), I would have been fine with any one of these things. Having the heroine defend herself from a rape attempt in one of the time periods they were visiting, minus the betrayal and nonconsensual use of her as wank fodder, I think wouldn't have hit me in the same way. And the general trope of One Of Us Is A Traitor is always fun. (I almost feel like part of my annoyance with this is that it's a waste of a perfectly good mole plotline, since there wasn't even a hint beforehand that there was a traitor in their midst at all.) Or one of her colleagues dying gorily -- this has already happened a time or two.

But, yeah. I put it down at that point, and I keep thinking about going back to it and just thinking, "Nope." It doesn't help that the guy who turned out to be a murdering rapist, her time-travel partner, was also the one with whom she had the most interesting and complicated relationship in the book, at least IMHO; we are now left with a bunch of nice-but-bland coworkers that she's not very close to, her sweet but not especially interesting love interest, and a mystery involving time-traveling baddies that has already had most of the mystery revealed.

Also. I mean. Characters had died earlier in the book, but not like THAT. In like a chapter we went from jokes about time-travel bureaucracy and the heroine being all "Squee! Dinosaurs!" to squicky sleeping rape attempts and the heroine picking up a guy's boot with his foot still in it and watching velociraptors play with his severed head.


If this doesn't sound like that big of a turnoff, I really do recommend the book other than that - I mean, as of about 40% into it. The narrative voice is great, the heroine is great, and the premise is fun. Just ... I DNF'd hard at that point and don't really see myself going back to it.

ETA: About that qualified recommendation ... apparently the book just keeps getting worse. See a spoilery rundown of all the reasons why at [personal profile] musesfool's blog.
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-01-20 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
EW EW EW EW EW EW EW. That is all so squicky in every way - a scenario for a really dark book, not a light one! And the jarring nature of it makes it even squickier.

dismemberment by velociraptor after being stabbed in the femoral artery in raptor country

The rest is so squicky it even makes a scenario like that non-fun, because it's so wildly tonally inappropriate.
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[personal profile] sheron 2020-01-21 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Coulda been sextuplets.

Anyway on a more serious note, I don't have a noncon squick so much as I have a "wtf why is THAT in THIS book" squick, which is when the book suddenly swerves from lighthearted to serious (or vice versa). I severely dislike this kind of thing if not signaled and this one sounds like a biggie.

ETA: to clarify, I obviously enjoy humour and drama interleaved, but it needs to not feel like being hit by a truck.
Edited 2020-01-21 01:30 (UTC)
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[personal profile] xparrot 2020-01-21 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Umm wow, yeah...that sounds way darker than I'd have expected or wanted, from how the book sounds otherwise! (It's funny because I do love comedies that get darker and more serious, but I have lines, apparently...!)
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[personal profile] musesfool 2020-01-21 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oh it gets worse later in the book. Here's my reaction post after reading it.
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[personal profile] musesfool 2020-01-21 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it was a lot of WTF in a not very big book.
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[personal profile] chomiji 2020-01-21 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Ouch. Why does someone even write something like that?
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[personal profile] musesfool 2020-01-21 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
It has a bunch of 4 and 5 star ratings on Goodreads, and i'm pretty sure it was someone on my flist who recommended it, so clearly it was right up some people's alley.

I think the problem for me wasn't necessarily all the dark stuff that happens, as that it wasn't written very well. And yet there are apparently 12 books in the series!
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-01-21 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
EW EW EW EW EW.
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[personal profile] musesfool 2020-01-21 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Basically, yeah.
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[personal profile] sovay 2020-01-21 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't help that the guy who turned out to be a murdering rapist, her time-travel partner, was also the one with whom she had the most interesting and complicated relationship in the book, at least IMHO

That's doubly frustrating when combined with the waste of the perfectly decent mole plotline: I don't know the details of their relationship, but he sounds as though he would have been much more valuable to the narrative alive and traitorous and with the protagonist feeling weird about the whole thing.

In like a chapter we went from jokes about time-travel bureaucracy and the heroine being all "Squee! Dinosaurs!" to squicky sleeping rape attempts and the heroine picking up a guy's boot with his foot still in it and watching velociraptors play with his severed head.

Unless the earlier lightness was meant to put the reader off their guard for the horror, that is the kind of tonal shift it is very difficult for a narrative to survive. I have enjoyed some simultaneously dark and zany stories, but that just sounds jarring.
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[personal profile] cofax7 2020-01-21 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I read a few of those, and the tonal whiplash just keeps on keeping on. And the boyfriend who turns on her and then she takes him back--this happens a couple more times, I think? And then maybe he gets killed horribly? Like, there's basically a LOT of nasty character torture that seems fairly unjustified and not related to plot or character particularly.

She really needs a good editor.
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[personal profile] kore 2020-01-21 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I also finished the first one and then a couple of more, and 'tonal whiplash' is the perfect description. The first book could have been really good with some heavy editing.
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[personal profile] nonniemous 2020-01-21 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. Tonal shift, much? I think I'll pass; that's just a bit much for me. Especially as that much of a blind-side.
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[personal profile] ratcreature 2020-01-21 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
O__o! Yikes.
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[personal profile] sartorias 2020-01-21 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I pushed through the book because it was so popular, and rape was so much a part of my growing up reading that I skim as soon as I see the red flags. I could see why the book was popular, and I bought the second one, but . . . I notice I never seem to get around to it. Even though a good part of my flist raves about each one coming out.
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[personal profile] sheliak 2020-01-21 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
For me, the most frustrating part was the bit a couple books in when the narrative sort of flirts with giving Barclay some depth... and then of course she was lying about the depth, and one of Max's friends reassures her that no, Barclay was exactly as flatly horrible as she always seemed! Argh.

(I also never really forgave Max's love interest for his asshole move later in the book; she gets a blatantly only-there-for-one-book love interest later and I liked him so much more, despite the obvious relationship hurdle of him being medieval. And then the story went out of its way to kill him off at the end of the book, even though Max had already gone back to whatsisname! Again, argh.)

... I also disliked what it did with Jack the Ripper, but I never like Jack the Ripper plots anyway.

[personal profile] helen_keeble 2020-01-21 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
I also started this book expecting Charming Hilarious Time Travelling Antics and was going WUT by the end!

The one book of hers that I did really enjoy (and which is why I picked up this one, expecting more of the same) is The Nothing Girl, which features a magical golden talking horse that only the heroine can see (in a magical realism kind of way rather than a “and now we will reveal the secret history of magic” fantasy kind of way), a delightful gentle hero, and a lot of English class-based comedy of manners.
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[personal profile] oracne 2020-01-22 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG I remember getting absolutely blindsided by this book and skimmed to the end but EUCH.