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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2020-01-18 10:44 pm

Kindle Unlimited adventures

I told [personal profile] rachelmanija I'd start writing more about books, soooo ...

I signed up for a Kindle Unlimited subscription last year. They give you 3 months free, which is diabolically clever; I doubt if a week would have done it, but after months of being able to click on the little "borrow for free!" icon and have a shiny new book on my Kindle, I think I'm going to keep the paid version for at least a couple of months. I also have to give them credit for being surprisingly non-evil with the free subscription. There is a very large button right on the KU homepage showing you when your free subscription converts to a paid one and giving you the option to unsubscribe.

I've found that, as well as inundating me with new reading material, the most useful thing about it is that it has been very helpful for studying a new genre by reading widely in it. Back in 2015, I did this with paranormal shifter romance when I first started writing Zoe, but I had to do it the hard way by downloading a bunch of free books as well as cherry-picking the 99-cent bestsellers. The KU subscription is great for this because I can just click on almost any book that looks interesting or useful, and have it show up for free on my Kindle. In fact, this is why I looked into the subscription originally, because I wanted to get an overview of mystery and thriller in the same way as I originally did PNR (I'd like to try out writing that for a moneymaking venture in a similar way to how I've been doing romance). So I've been enjoying that, as well as exploring a few interesting-looking romance subgenres.

To be fair, I've downloaded and started WAY more books than I've actually finished. Honestly, though, just being able to read the first few chapters of a ton of different books in a particular category is its own kind of useful. (I have, in fact, done this both at the library and in my own book collection in the past, especially while studying opening scenes, so this is a convenient way to achieve the same result.)

Reading a ton of selfpub, particularly in some of the more niche genres, is also an exciting adventure in "what you see is not necessarily what you get." I'm starting to get used to books with fairly genre-standard covers that turn out to be something totally different. Here's an example: Ghosts of Gotham, which has a nice cover and a hook-y opening with a reporter hero who makes a living out of debunking supernatural scams. I expected that there probably would be supernatural shenanigans (ghosts maybe?), but I was still completely unprepared for ANCIENT BABYLONIAN ZOMBIE DEATH CULT, demons, Near Eastern gods, an entire office tower full of people in New York City dropping dead and no one seeming to care, and a love interest who appears to be some sort of immortal goddess/sorceress who bleeds out her eyes when she does magic. This book is bonkers but not really in a good way, or at least not in a to-my-tastes kind of way, and I noped out about halfway through.

And then there's the general issue of "suddenly Jesus," wherein a book that does not appear to be set up that way from the first few chapters turns out to be inspirational fiction, which is frequently (for some reason) either not even hinted at in the blurbs, or couched in dog whistle euphemisms like finding meaning in life, which I am completely into as a trope, but not, generally, like this. (I mean, I'm fine with the characters in a book I'm reading being personally invested in Jesus as an aspect of their character, but there's a big difference between that and "Jesus is actively manipulating the ending of this book," I'm just saying.)

I also made the mistake of reading Dean Koontz again. He has a bestselling series of Kindle shorts (the Nameless series) and I also read them, or at least skimmed them. I generally find his endings disappointing (to the point that, for awhile, my husband and I used to jokingly use Koontz as a verb, as in, to Koontz an ending is to really fail to stick the landing), but even going in with low expectations I was still unprepared for how utterly and infuriatingly the ending of that series would fail to achieve ANY part of what I want from an ending, not in a "suddenly Jesus" way but rather in a "Fuck you, Koontz, that's the WORST payoff for all the hints about the core mystery of these books that you could possibly have come up with short of just not giving us any answers at all" kind of way.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2020-01-19 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That is such a smart way to use that service.

Every so often I get a student who wants to be a writer who "doesn't read because they want to be original." *snort* That's not how any of this works.

I am not surprised that there is a surprise!Jesus genre. Having been raised evangelical, I can bet you that the surprise part is deliberate, that the writer is hoping to hook people in with the beginning and then convert them with the appearance of Jesus.
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[personal profile] kore 2020-01-19 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you remember that string of TERRIBLE books in the eighties, I think they all had girls' names as the titles, where the girls ran away and inevitably fell victim to prostitution and drug addiction and abuse and on and on in the big city, and then they hit bottom and were taken to meet a friendly guy who turned out to be an evangelical Christian and then they were Saved and that was the HEA, The End? It was so obviously aimed at the pulp market, although the Surprise!Jesus factor kind of wore off after a couple of books.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2020-01-19 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Thankfully, no. LOL

My parents have always been evangelical, but they didn't fall into the deep end until after I left for college. Most of the reading in my house during my childhood was sci-fi, fantasy, and old school romance novels. *Now* their house is full of that crap, and that's mostly what my mom reads, but I escaped it.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2020-01-19 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet those types are in every creative field. And then they never get why their work isn't progressing or that all art is a conversation with what came before.
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[personal profile] leesa_perrie 2020-01-19 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I keep thinking I should give Kindle Unlimited a go, but then I look at the pile of actual books (some not available on Kindle due to being so old) and the 'pile' of books on my Kindle and think, maybe I have too much to read already?! I suppose I should be disciplined and not buy any more Kindle books until I've read what I've got, but I just know that's not going to happen. Especially if one turns uo for 99p as a special offer...

Still, if I ever become a writer of original fic, this looks like a good way to research writing in whatever area I want to write in, so I can certainly see its appeal.
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[personal profile] leesa_perrie 2020-01-19 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Book lovers never get to the end of their to-read stack, me thinks, because for every book read, another two or three seem to come along!! :D
Edited 2020-01-19 21:21 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sheron 2020-01-19 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
You have to give a Koontz example now, I'm curious :D

And yeah, I find that reading a few chapters can often give you a really good idea about the book in a way that's useful for writing in that genre.
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-01-20 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
I read one of his where all seemed lost and the villains killed the hero and heroine, only for the golden retriever to turn out to be possessed by the ghost of the hero's dead daughter who was now an angel, and resurrected the hero and heroine.

I do find his thing for golden retrievers to be pretty endearing.
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[personal profile] kore 2020-01-19 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
And then there's the general issue of "suddenly Jesus," wherein a book that does not appear to be set up that way from the first few chapters turns out to be inspirational fiction, which is frequently (for some reason) either not even hinted at in the blurbs, or couched in dog whistle euphemisms like finding meaning in life, which I am completely into as a trope, but not, generally, like this. (I mean, I'm fine with the characters in a book I'm reading being personally invested in Jesus as an aspect of their character, but there's a big difference between that and "Jesus is actively manipulating the ending of this book," I'm just saying.)

Oh ghod, I remember grading essays like that as a teacher. I think I got at least a couple of variants on the "little old man on the plane/in the hospital waiting room/at the scene of the accident" story every single semester.
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[personal profile] kore 2020-01-19 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
AAAAHHH it's like Jesus combined with the Secret, OMG
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[personal profile] scrubjayspeaks 2020-01-19 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"suddenly, Jesus" lolsob. That is hilarious to hear about secondhand, but I also know I would recoil in horror if I actually encountered that without warning in a book. People do the weirdest stuff.

Using KU as a cheaper way to tear through a ton of material for genre-learning purposes is a brilliant idea, and I'm going to need to keep it in mind. I'm seldom a sufficiently prolific reader to ever get my money's worth from services like that, but if I had a specific project in mind--much better.
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[personal profile] amalthia 2020-01-19 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I stopped reading Dean Koontz when I realized his stories were all plot not much character depth.
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[personal profile] amalthia 2020-01-19 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I read Dean Koontz's books when I was a teenager and I enjoyed them, but they didn't hold up when I tried re-reading them in my early 30s.
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[personal profile] amalthia 2020-01-19 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
lol, yeah opinions. Well everyone brings their own worldview to the stories they read....
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-01-20 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
I've re-read a couple of my favorites of his. I still like Watchers.
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[personal profile] alessandriana 2020-01-20 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm currently on the KU 3-month free-ish (well, 99 cents) plan, though that's been mostly because there's a series I'm tearing through. (Nice Dragons Finish Last by Rachel Aaron.) Debating if I should keep it after that point-- I don't generally see a *lot* of books on there I'm very interested in, and I prefer that my book-buying money goes towards B&N. On the other hand... unlimited book reading.
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[personal profile] cathexys 2020-01-20 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I love KU (on the cheap trial phase which I'm doing for the second time now) to not feel guilty about DNFs.

Re Ghosts of Gotham. LOL. I've read a couple of series by Schaefer that I actually kinda liked, but they went from random sorcerer to princes of hell in like no time, so I knew to be prepared :)

OTOH, I've ha on sudden mpreg coming out of nowhere which very much disturbed me and a random Jesus would really annoy me!!!
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-01-20 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
What if it was an mpregnant Jesus though.
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-01-20 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, I hate it.
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-01-20 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
"Fuck you, Koontz, that's the WORST payoff for all the hints about the core mystery of these books that you could possibly have come up with short of just not giving us any answers at all"

I want to know the details!
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-01-20 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
What.

Just... WHAT.

Why does he need amnesia? If he he wants to be a precognitive vigilante, why not just be a precognitive vigilante?

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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-01-20 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like in the hands of a better writer who actually realized that this was totally insane, this could be a pretty cool story about basically Tony Stark who was absolutely off his rocker from PTSD. Like maybe the only way he can get the precognition that enables him to be a vigilante is if he also gets amnesia, but what he REALLY wants is amnesia and the whole precognitive vigilante thing is just an excuse.

That does not explain why everyone else goes along with it. I guess if you're crazy Tony Stark you could set up some failsafe mechanisms to make sure they do even when you're amnesiac.
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-01-20 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
a love interest who appears to be some sort of immortal goddess/sorceress who bleeds out her eyes when she does magic.

Sexy!
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[personal profile] scioscribe 2020-01-20 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
A bunch of the books going bonkers in terms of genre and plot ingredients makes me wonder if a bunch of these are first drafts (even polished first drafts) written without aid of an outline by people who aren't inherently good at structure. So they just keep throwing new ideas in as they come up with them and solving plot problems however they can, with whatever random solution they can come up with.

Of course, sometimes people really do just think in weird ways, which can actually be entertaining if they harness it into something that actually qualifies as a unique vision.

I had several Koontz novels back in the day that I read and enjoyed. I have since veered so far away from him that it's just a giant wall of NOPE. Among other things, he has a talent for coming up with premises I find riveting and then ruining them; I suspect that he does not want me, personally, to be happy.
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[personal profile] glitteryv 2020-01-24 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny, I had the same "KU for 3-months free!" offer two years ago. Based on my spreadsheet, I ended up only reading a total of 8 books and DNF'ing around 12. O__o.

See, the thing is that I'm ridic privileged w/r/t ebooks and audiobooks reading from my library via Overdrive and Hoopla. From the most classic stuff to the most bonkers reverse harem, my library will get the license for them. So, in terms of paying almost $10/month of KU, it never made any kind of fiscal sense to me.

I do have to say that the fandom-to-profic line is close to non-existent on KU. There are so many trope-y AF books over there! It's fascinating to see what ppl (who I'm perhaps wrongfully assuming aren't in Fandom) will go head over heels for in KU. This isn't me looking down on them, btw. It's just that I often found myself thinking "huh, there are at least 10 epic length fics on AO3 that have this same trope".
Edited (Had to clarify something.) 2020-01-24 22:22 (UTC)