Okay, Internet hive mind ...

[sholio]

I have a question about the Daredevil TV show.

In the episode in which Foggy and Karen have their "date" (1x06, I think), there's a part of that scene in which my interpretation seems to be 180 degrees off from the prevailing fandom interpretation, at least based on what I'm picking up from fic, which is pretty much 100% going with this other version. So I would like to see what you all think.

That part of the "date" scene where Karen asks if Foggy can touch her face, and he does ...

It seems like the fandom took that to mean that Karen wants to pretend Foggy is Matt, so it's pretty much THE definitive torpedo-the-ship moment for the Karen/Foggy ship.

But that's not how I read it at all! I thought she was flirting with him, just picking up from what they'd been talking about earlier. Yes, she was asking him about Matt earlier, and that was kind of sad, but at this point it seemed to me that the focus had shifted to "I want you to touch my face." It's not sad! She's flirting with him! She's having fun and she wants him to touch her!

... however, apparently no one else got that out of the scene? And admittedly I can be slow at picking up intended subtext. So I'm wondering what you all thought. How did you read that exchange?

Comments

[anotherslashfan]

I thought that she is mostly flirting but that the showmakers wanted to imply that she subconsciously keeps thinking a lot about Matt.

[veleda_k]

I thought she was 100% flirting with Foggy, with some plausible deniability thrown in. "Oh, touch me, put your hands, all over my face... so I can know what I'd look like to blind person of course! No other reason!"

(I mean, surely, Karen should realize that Foggy is is own person and not blind, so wouldn't get anything slightly resembling the impression Matt would get. But the internet does seem to disagree with me on this.)

[musesfool]

For once I have to agree with the internet - I definitely read that as her being more interested in Matt and thinking about him when she asked that, and then realizing what it sounded like so suggesting she touch Foggy's face too. And I think that's how Foggy also interpreted it.

[ratcreature]

I like to see the three as more OT3 with attraction all around? So I thought she was flirting with Foggy, but is also attracted to Matt, and thinking about him too.

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