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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2009-04-05 08:36 pm

A bit about last week's Supernatural

My reaction to this episode was ... mixed. I thought the fandom parody was hysterically funny, and there were bits throughout that I liked. ("I am the prophet Chuck!") But overall, it was too fourth-wall-breaking and heavy-handed for my tastes, and came off feeling kind of, um, masturbatory on the writers' parts. I'm still trying to work out exactly what it was about the episode that made me so uncomfortable, because it wasn't the references to fandom (though I've seen some people reacting badly to that -- honestly though, if you've been in fandom for any length of time and really have no idea what it looks like from the outside, dude, get some perspective!), but the whole thing with the self-conscious "reminding the audience that this is a TV show" just made me feel ... kind of weird. It doesn't help that a lot of shows have done these kinds of fourth-wall-breaking storylines before (and comics too, as well as like 2/3 of everything Stephen King has written) and often done them quite a bit better -- I thought Stargate's "200" episode was a brilliant use of the trope, for example -- and so it mostly just felt like the writers had run out of ideas and were clutching at straws.

I know a lot of my f'list liked this one, though, and I'm happy for them. :D I think I'll bask in my warm glow from the previous week and contemplate the existence of a Sam-and-Dean-are-office-workers AU, because I really kinda want to write it.

[identity profile] mcalex22.livejournal.com 2009-04-06 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not in the SPN fandom anymore... I don't think I'm in any fandom except anime... so I tend not to be aware of others' thoughts. In fact there are still some SPN eps this season which I haven't seen...

I didn't mind the episode - I'm not a fan of dark epic doomsday storylines but it looks like that's where it's going. I'm actually finding myself incredibly frustrated with Sam because I feel like he's acting not very intelligently and for once, I see Dean as the voice of reason. I'm also frustrated that they keep painting out the God and angels team as being not perfect and half the angels seem like badass. I'm not religious but I just find some of the explanations of the whole angels and doomsday armageddon illogical.

As for the comment about slash, hmm, didn't really think much about it probably because I have the same reaction as Dean. I didn't read much into it. I do however wonder why they felt the need to include it. Was it meant to be taken as a joke? Or some sort of "You do know this is sick, right crazy gals?"

The idea of the prophet was interesting. I liked Chuck and found his story both funny and tragic. I was almost afraid that he'd die in the end like almost every other non-main character.


I think for me, I had a squee seeing Castiel, hearing Dean call him Cas and dare I say I like Mischa's deadpan expression as Cas? I like the fact that he's being influenced by Dean and in his own way, he does ocassionally do things to help Dean?

LOL - for a non-fandomy person, I sure am silly for spending money going to a SPN con!!!! :)


BTW, on another topic, have you seen the new FMA yet? Subbed Ep 1 has now been released! Gonna check it out!


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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2009-04-06 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not a fan of dark epic doomsday storylines but it looks like that's where it's going.

Ha. Yeah. Over the last couple of seasons, I think the only SPN eps that I've really enjoyed have been the lighter ones that aren't part of the big mytharc. I can get into such things when it's part of the show's fabric from the beginning, but this isn't the SPN I fell in love with. I don't think the mytharc makes coherent sense -- it's starting to have the same feeling Lost did before I stopped watching it, sort of a "fling lots of shit at the wall and let's see what sticks!" kind of feeling, i.e. the writers are making it up and changing their minds as they go along. (For one thing, didn't Kripke say in an interview a couple of years ago that they had demons on the show but would never have angels? And now the angels are an integral part of the storyline? Yeah.)

BTW, on another topic, have you seen the new FMA yet? Subbed Ep 1 has now been released! Gonna check it out!

Aha! No, I've not seen it. I didn't know it was out yet!

[identity profile] mcalex22.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
Let me know if you're interested in FMA! I can put you in touch with Ep 1...

I quite enjoyed it but I have never seem the first version so I don't know if this one is better/worse etc. I love Roy's seiyuu (the new one) so I think I'll definitely stick with it.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
hmmm~! I appreciate the offer, but I have so much stacked up to watch right now that I shouldn't add another thing to the mix! But I will probably take a rain check on that a little later. :D

I loved the first series; it's actually one of my all-time favorites. I understand that it diverged very heavily from the manga (most of which I haven't read) and that the new series will follow the manga more closely, though.