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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2024-07-19 12:55 am
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A stray DNF

Okay, I gave A Scandal in Babylon one more chance - this is Barbara Hambly's no-supernatural reboot of Bride of the Rat God, a reboot which I've already bounced off once - and .... no, it's going back in the return-to-used-bookstore box.

I can see why she would want to edit out the Orientalism of the original and the supernatural aspects that make it (potentially) a hard sell to historical cozy readers. But the reworked version is just - not good! Or at least not as good. Her historical ambiance is top-notch as always, but I reread the opening chapters of the original for comparison and I don't think it's just my wistful nostalgia for the original book that makes the reboot feel flat and charmless by comparison. It's like reading fanfic of a beloved canon that doesn't quite nail it.

If this is meant to be the first book in a new series, it doesn't sell me nearly as strongly on the connections between the characters as the original did in just a chapter or two, and if it's meant to have Bride as its ghostly first volume where the character relationships are actually built up, it's simply weird to be shunted off into an AU in which the events of the previous book clearly didn't happen, and the characters have different names now! (Also it doesn't help that of the three reboot names, I only feel that one of them fits the character it's attached to as well as the original did, and one of the new names I actively dislike.)

But also, compared to the clarity and brisk pace of the original, the reboot feels slow-paced and cluttered. Trying to lose the baggage of the original and approach the reboot characters as new characters, I just didn't care all that much about them. I skimmed it a bit to see if it was going to engage me more, and it didn't, so DNF it is.

I honestly wish that, if she was going to write more about 1920s Hollywood, she'd created a new set of characters and let us get to know them on their own merits. But there are many other books in the world, and I'll always have the original to reread.
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[personal profile] philomytha 2024-07-19 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
I read this without knowing the original, and I think it probably works better that way, the 1920s Hollywood setting was a lot of fun, but I do remember finding it a bit hard to follow in places.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2024-07-19 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know anything about either of these books, but trying to reboot your own work in this way sounds like an odd choice to me anyway. What do you think her goal was?
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[personal profile] sovay 2024-07-19 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
this is Barbara Hambly's no-supernatural reboot of Bride of the Rat God, a reboot which I've already bounced off once

I keep forgetting she did that.

What are the names and the deals with them?
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[personal profile] sovay 2024-07-19 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
(I do recommend reading Bride of the Rat God if you get a chance, it's really fun and pulp-fiction-y! I have an ebook copy, but I don't know if it's still available in that format now that she's rebooted it.)

It's one of the titles I used to see in used book stores in college and foolishly did not pick up on pulp strength alone because I wouldn't start seriously reading Hambly until 2016.
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[personal profile] sovay 2024-07-19 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It was possibly the first Hambly I read! I did pick it up in a used bookstore purely on Vibes, so apparently the Vibe was catnip to a bookstore-browsing teenager ...

If I ever see another copy!
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[personal profile] lyr 2024-07-19 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww, that's disappointing. I really liked Bride, and I'd been meaning to get to this one. It doesn't sound like it would be my thing either, though.
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[personal profile] sovay 2024-07-19 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Alec is Zal Rokatansky, which ... I can see what she's going for here, I guess, but it really does not work for me at all.

I assume Zal is short for Zalman, but having some done minimal research into the subject (that is, read the first chapter of the original novel on Google Books) I'm not sure what she's going for, since if I meet a dude named Alec Mindelbaum, I don't assume he's anything but Jewish. And kind of already pushing his luck not changing it.
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[personal profile] cornerofmadness 2024-07-20 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
how unfortunate. I usually like her work as well but haven't heard of this one (or the original)
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[personal profile] sovay 2024-07-20 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry about referencing the characters as if you're supposed to know who I'm talking about!

It's fine! The first chapter made me want to read the rest of it! This reboot concept has obviously backfired!

But (with the caveat that I'm supremely unqualified to comment), I don't think it works as well or feels as much a product of its time as the previous version. Alec was very clearly and textually Jewish before.

Mindelbaum!

A browser glitch ate the original version of this comment, so tl;dr with the caveat in turn that the past is full of people who wouldn't pass muster in a novel, the change of name does feel like the novel leaning on its point. Even in 1923 Hollywood, I would be less surprised by a producer or a composer named Zal Rokatansky—a DP I would expect to have anglicized his byline slightly even if his friends still called him "Zal."
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2024-07-20 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the thorough explanation. That makes a lot of sense; I can see why she would have wanted to continue/remix the series based on one of/a mixture of those factors.
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[personal profile] affreca 2024-07-20 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's a case that she's found her historical mysteries without magic sell better (over the last 20 years), so she pulled the magic out of the setting. Last year's The Iron Princess is the first non-vampire novel she's published since Circle of the Moon in 2005. Meanwhile, she's had a new Benjamin January novel most years since then and wrote a couple of books with Abigail Adams.

I hadn't caught that she changed the characters' names. Also, I've found a number of her sequels are misses. The aspects of that she returns to play with aren't ones that interest me. I desperately try to forget the Dragonsbane sequels because they undermine the things I liked in the first book.
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[personal profile] cornerofmadness 2024-07-22 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
yes that's understandable