I don't feel familiar enough with the character to write it, but I would definitely read. A (or maybe the) thing that makes Yon-Rogg potentially interesting to me, and not just an obnoxious arrogant psychologically abusive cockwaffle, is how much of what he does is that's rotten from an omniscient POV, is justified, honorable, even necessary, from his POV embedded in Kree society and manipulated by the Supreme Intelligence. It's intriguing to me to wonder how his personal rationality and ethics would operate absent that Kree scaffolding (would he transcend his enculturation and repudiate the the manipulation of Carol into Vers? I like to think so, but a good story could be made either way). And how it'd affect him, to be the kind of character he is and not have Kree culture to support him-- either by seeing through it to another perspective (such as by empathizing with Carol) or being removed from it (such as by being outcast from the Kree or being dropped in an AU where he has a dysphoric role). He's a fictional stand-in that lets me play with ideas about real-world people embedded in nationalism, institutionalized racist and sexist supremacy, and painful stuff like that -- but at a little remove that makes it less-painful enough to think about for 'fun'.
I would like to see Yon-Rogg obliged to reckon with finding himself in the role of "Roger Yon, preschool teacher," or whatever, the same way I'd like to see my problematic ex (who couldn't stop misgendering me because to admit he'd been attracted to someone who wasn't 100% a straight femme lady woman would destabilize his cis-het-sexist identity, is much the same way Yon-Rogg can't stop calling Carol "Vers" because to do so would undermine his implicit
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I don't feel familiar enough with the character to write it, but I would definitely read. A (or maybe the) thing that makes Yon-Rogg potentially interesting to me, and not just an obnoxious arrogant psychologically abusive cockwaffle, is how much of what he does is that's rotten from an omniscient POV, is justified, honorable, even necessary, from his POV embedded in Kree society and manipulated by the Supreme Intelligence. It's intriguing to me to wonder how his personal rationality and ethics would operate absent that Kree scaffolding (would he transcend his enculturation and repudiate the the manipulation of Carol into Vers? I like to think so, but a good story could be made either way). And how it'd affect him, to be the kind of character he is and not have Kree culture to support him-- either by seeing through it to another perspective (such as by empathizing with Carol) or being removed from it (such as by being outcast from the Kree or being dropped in an AU where he has a dysphoric role). He's a fictional stand-in that lets me play with ideas about real-world people embedded in nationalism, institutionalized racist and sexist supremacy, and painful stuff like that -- but at a little remove that makes it less-painful enough to think about for 'fun'.
I would like to see Yon-Rogg obliged to reckon with finding himself in the role of "Roger Yon, preschool teacher," or whatever, the same way I'd like to see my problematic ex (who couldn't stop misgendering me because to admit he'd been attracted to someone who wasn't 100% a straight femme lady woman would destabilize his cis-het-sexist identity, is much the same way Yon-Rogg can't stop calling Carol "Vers" because to do so would undermine his implicit <Kree uber alles</i>) be obliged to live as a minority among queers. Or the way I'd like to see nationalists or racists have to live as guests among another people.
Who do you become when who you are has been so built on things outside yourself, and you don't have those any more? What can you learn from people whose sense of self was internally based, who can weather different circumstances, loss of supports, without losing themself?
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A (or maybe the) thing that makes Yon-Rogg potentially interesting to me, and not just an obnoxious arrogant psychologically abusive cockwaffle, is how much of what he does is that's rotten from an omniscient POV, is justified, honorable, even necessary, from his POV embedded in Kree society and manipulated by the Supreme Intelligence. It's intriguing to me to wonder how his personal rationality and ethics would operate absent that Kree scaffolding (would he transcend his enculturation and repudiate the the manipulation of Carol into Vers? I like to think so, but a good story could be made either way). And how it'd affect him, to be the kind of character he is and not have Kree culture to support him-- either by seeing through it to another perspective (such as by empathizing with Carol) or being removed from it (such as by being outcast from the Kree or being dropped in an AU where he has a dysphoric role).
He's a fictional stand-in that lets me play with ideas about real-world people embedded in nationalism, institutionalized racist and sexist supremacy, and painful stuff like that -- but at a little remove that makes it less-painful enough to think about for 'fun'.
I would like to see Yon-Rogg obliged to reckon with finding himself in the role of "Roger Yon, preschool teacher," or whatever, the same way I'd like to see my problematic ex (who couldn't stop misgendering me because to admit he'd been attracted to someone who wasn't 100% a straight femme lady woman would destabilize his cis-het-sexist identity, is much the same way Yon-Rogg can't stop calling Carol "Vers" because to do so would undermine his implicit
A (or maybe the) thing that makes Yon-Rogg potentially interesting to me, and not just an obnoxious arrogant psychologically abusive cockwaffle, is how much of what he does is that's rotten from an omniscient POV, is justified, honorable, even necessary, from his POV embedded in Kree society and manipulated by the Supreme Intelligence. It's intriguing to me to wonder how his personal rationality and ethics would operate absent that Kree scaffolding (would he transcend his enculturation and repudiate the the manipulation of Carol into Vers? I like to think so, but a good story could be made either way). And how it'd affect him, to be the kind of character he is and not have Kree culture to support him-- either by seeing through it to another perspective (such as by empathizing with Carol) or being removed from it (such as by being outcast from the Kree or being dropped in an AU where he has a dysphoric role).
He's a fictional stand-in that lets me play with ideas about real-world people embedded in nationalism, institutionalized racist and sexist supremacy, and painful stuff like that -- but at a little remove that makes it less-painful enough to think about for 'fun'.
I would like to see Yon-Rogg obliged to reckon with finding himself in the role of "Roger Yon, preschool teacher," or whatever, the same way I'd like to see my problematic ex (who couldn't stop misgendering me because to admit he'd been attracted to someone who wasn't 100% a straight femme lady woman would destabilize his cis-het-sexist identity, is much the same way Yon-Rogg can't stop calling Carol "Vers" because to do so would undermine his implicit <Kree uber alles</i>) be obliged to live as a minority among queers. Or the way I'd like to see nationalists or racists have to live as guests among another people.
Who do you become when who you are has been so built on things outside yourself, and you don't have those any more? What can you learn from people whose sense of self was internally based, who can weather different circumstances, loss of supports, without losing themself?