Re: Barry - YES. EXACTLY. THAT. Actually now that I'm thinking about it, the OOC-ness was not just with Barry but with everyone, and that's a big part of what makes this future so hard for me to accept as a plausible future for them. Joe and Cisco in particular; it's just as hard to figure out how you get from the canon versions to these passive versions who just walked away (especially Joe, whose reaction to Barry trying to reconnect is basically "scram").
I think the eight-year time jump is also part of the problem. Six months in the future, when everyone is still reeling from Iris's death and Caitlin's betrayal, makes more sense. EIGHT YEARS ... I mean, obviously you don't just get over the loss of a loved one, but after THAT much time, there should have been both more and fewer changes -- eight years in the future, everyone should have been doing more for the past eight years than just spinning their wheels and staying in the same place, and yet, all the changes they DID make were, for the most part, OOC for them. It was a weirdly narrow-feeling future, with so little presence of characters outside the season three core team, and everyone still basically living in Central City doing what they'd been doing eight years ago (more or less).
Snapper - Yeah, I feel like he's an OTT caricature of the Salty Editor Boss more than a plausible character (which is one of the reasons why he irritates me so much). I keep thinking we're probably supposed to be getting "heartwarming" from the moments when he's not haranguing Kara, but, er, not so much. And yet - I think it's the fact that it's so incredibly rare for a reporter character on TV to actually, explicitly make the points he makes that I'm willing to cut him a lot of slack because of that, especially in the present time.
I had an easier time with Cat Grant because I never actually felt like CatCo was a genuine news organization. I couldn't actually figure out what on earth the people who worked there actually did, though.
That makes sense, and ahahahahaaaa, I had that problem too, with not being able to figure out what anyone did. I guess what they did wasn't really the point - Kara might as well have gone to work for any sort of white-collar company with a big office, and it wouldn't have made much difference. But it made the sudden appearance of a (supposedly) hard-hitting newsmagazine in season two kind of WTF.
I think the obvious corporate-ness of CatCo in season one - the fact that it was supposedly a media/news organization, but all you ever saw people doing was paper-pushing and providing entertainment - was a big part of what turned me off of it, and Cat, in general, though. It just happened to hit at EXACTLY the wrong time for me to appreciate a show about a rich person using their personal media conglomerate to manipulate public opinion ...
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I think the eight-year time jump is also part of the problem. Six months in the future, when everyone is still reeling from Iris's death and Caitlin's betrayal, makes more sense. EIGHT YEARS ... I mean, obviously you don't just get over the loss of a loved one, but after THAT much time, there should have been both more and fewer changes -- eight years in the future, everyone should have been doing more for the past eight years than just spinning their wheels and staying in the same place, and yet, all the changes they DID make were, for the most part, OOC for them. It was a weirdly narrow-feeling future, with so little presence of characters outside the season three core team, and everyone still basically living in Central City doing what they'd been doing eight years ago (more or less).
Snapper - Yeah, I feel like he's an OTT caricature of the Salty Editor Boss more than a plausible character (which is one of the reasons why he irritates me so much). I keep thinking we're probably supposed to be getting "heartwarming" from the moments when he's not haranguing Kara, but, er, not so much. And yet - I think it's the fact that it's so incredibly rare for a reporter character on TV to actually, explicitly make the points he makes that I'm willing to cut him a lot of slack because of that, especially in the present time.
I had an easier time with Cat Grant because I never actually felt like CatCo was a genuine news organization. I couldn't actually figure out what on earth the people who worked there actually did, though.
That makes sense, and ahahahahaaaa, I had that problem too, with not being able to figure out what anyone did. I guess what they did wasn't really the point - Kara might as well have gone to work for any sort of white-collar company with a big office, and it wouldn't have made much difference. But it made the sudden appearance of a (supposedly) hard-hitting newsmagazine in season two kind of WTF.
I think the obvious corporate-ness of CatCo in season one - the fact that it was supposedly a media/news organization, but all you ever saw people doing was paper-pushing and providing entertainment - was a big part of what turned me off of it, and Cat, in general, though. It just happened to hit at EXACTLY the wrong time for me to appreciate a show about a rich person using their personal media conglomerate to manipulate public opinion ...