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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2008-03-05 10:10 pm
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Furies of Calderon

I finished Jim Butcher's Furies of Calderon and ... feel like griping about it.

Because, seriously, Butcher, you can do better than this! By the final third of the book, I'd gotten to the point where I was just skimming -- still kinda holding out hope that things might take a turn for the better, but ... not really engaged with it at all.

It was just so generic -- basically one of those EveryFantasy books, taking place in the standard pseudo-medieval-Europe (only, as usual, missing most of the things that make the real medieval Europe dramatically interesting, like disease and economic oppression and horrendous racial/religious injustice). The really frustrating thing is that it could have been much better -- the magic system, with its Shinto-ish idea of spirits living in mountains and rivers, is really neat and unusual, and obviously he'd put quite a bit of time into developing the world, but what came out was sort of a cookie-cutter sanitized pseudo-Europe with a cookie-cutter plot centering around your basic cookie-cutter good-hearted farmboy. And then the plot turned out to be a sprawling mess with way too little organization and too many characters. (And I speak as someone who loves complicated plots! But this was just ... too many characters to really care about anybody, too many scene-switches to get into one set of events before we'd jump to another one.)

But the worst part was the racial/sexual stuff -- and, again, I know he can do better; there are occasional things that bug me along those lines in the Dresden Files books (like his tendency to keep reminding us over and over of the characters' ethnicity if they're not white), but never anywhere near like this. I just don't know where to begin with what a fundamentally bad idea the Marat were, in pretty much every way, and the awfulness of the casual way that words like "savage" and "horde" and "cannibal" were tossed around in the book -- especially when so many aspects of Marat culture were rather blatantly patterned on Native American and African cultures. The final twist of the knife was that little bit of Aleran history that we got near the end, that the Alerans had come here from elsewhere and basically driven out or subdued all the indigenous cultures, which basically just hammers home the (accidental?) Alerans=Europeans metaphor and makes the portrayal of the Marat as savage invaders (or, at the end, naive innocents confused by the trappings of "modern" Aleran culture) even more disturbing.

On the gender side -- like I've mentioned before, I'm not especially sensitive to gender issues in general, and especially in fantasy or historical fiction, I'm very tolerant of women's social roles, status in society, and the language used by the other characters to describe them being very different from what would be acceptable in the modern world. Having said that, the slave-collar/rape scene sent my ick-o-meter right off the scale, especially combined a few other, little ick-inducing things, like the way that sadistic Odiana was always referred to as a "water witch" (in the narrative as well as by the other characters) while good-guy Isana, with the exact same powers, was always called a watercrafter. I'm not saying "Jim Butcher is a raging mysogynist!" because, well, he obviously isn't; he's always had good, well-rounded female characters in all of his books, including this one. Which makes it all the more bizarre that the book would suddenly come out of nowhere with a very squick-inducing scene of forced servitude and rape. It's not that you can't ever deal with those topics in a book, of course -- it's just, there are some treatments of that sort of scene that really emphasize how awful it would be for the victim, and some that sort of give you the idea the author's playing out a fantasy. This was ... more the latter, unfortunately.

On the surface, Isana getting to become a steadholder at the end seems to be a "yay, girl power!" moment -- but, uh, actually it's not, because I was just totally weirded out by how little resistance there was to the idea. The first female steadholder ever? And it's so casual, and nobody objects? See, I could totally see her assuming the role informally, with Bernard remaining the titular head of household while Isana takes on most of the actual power and duties, but ... formally codifying it like that just felt wrong -- it felt wrong for their society as it had been presented up to that point, it felt totally wrong for the way that rural people act and the way that gender prejudice and established gender roles work in a medieval-ish society. It's just one step removed from the king waving a hand and declaring "There shall be no gender prejudice throughout my land!" and lo, because he said it was so, then it shall be so ... and I know that's a really silly example, but that's exactly how it felt in the book.

... okay. Enough griping. At this point, I think I'd have to be really hard-up for reading material to even think about buying another book in the series. It's a good thing that I read the Dresden Files books first, because this wouldn't have left me with a particularly good opinion of Butcher as a writer. (But the new Dresden book comes out on April 1! I shall console myself with that.)

EDIT: Oh, hey, I forgot to mention another thing that drove me crazy about the book, and that's the way that (apparently) major events would happen and then have no consequences for the plot or characters. For example, Bernard coming back from the dead! I was expecting major fallout from that, like he ends up undead or something, especially since they'd made a big deal about what a terrible risk it was -- but Isana sleeps for awhile, and everyone's fine and it's never mentioned again. Or everything that happened with Isana and Odiana, and everything we found out about Odiana's past -- at the end of it, she goes back to Aldrick and, after acting like a halfway normal human being while she was with Isana, as soon as she gets back with her old circle of friends she's back to being a giggly sadist ... everything that happened with the slave collar and the connection she appeared to be forming to Isana is just thrown out the window; it didn't change her at all. AAAAAARGH.
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Re: From righteous indignation to Death Gate!

[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I almost gave up on Death Gate after the first book, because I hated Haplo (unlike some people around here *looks around for [livejournal.com profile] xparrot* I don't go for bad guys unless they're a whole lot more reformed than he was in Book 1) and they killed my favorite character in the book and then switched to a whole different set of (not very likeable) characters in book 2! But I'm ever so glad I stuck with it, and I love being surprised, so I was all the happier when [spoiler spoiler character stuff spoiler] happened. *g*

By the way, have you ever seen Book-A-Minute (http://www.rinkworks.com/bookaminute/sff.shtml)? Their capsule summary of Death Gate (http://www.rinkworks.com/bookaminute/b/weishickman.deathgate.shtml) is hysterical. (Haplo: "I'm Haplo the Patryn. I'm angry because all the other Patryn are in a Sartan prison. But I have a cool dog." :D )

Which is a stupid kind of way to sell it, because...

But, alas, a fantastic way to sell it to me! *adds to Amazon wish list*
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Re: From righteous indignation to Death Gate!

[personal profile] naye 2008-03-07 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I almost gave up on Death Gate after the first book, because I hated Haplo (unlike some people around here *looks around for xparrot* I don't go for bad guys unless they're a whole lot more reformed than he was in Book 1)

Hee! Same here! And I didn't like Hugh either, at first...! Which is why I got turned off by the first book. But then, having glimpsed what lay ahead, I decided to give it another go. Yay! ♥ Because I do adore the [spoiler spoiler character stuff spoiler] - and the Dog, of course.


By the way, have you ever seen Book-A-Minute? Their capsule summary of Death Gate is hysterical. (Haplo: "I'm Haplo the Patryn. I'm angry because all the other Patryn are in a Sartan prison. But I have a cool dog." :D )


I hadn't, but it made me laugh out loud! Perfect!

But, alas, a fantastic way to sell it to me! *adds to Amazon wish list*

*beams* I hope you'll like it. ♥ (The caveat is - there is angst, and if you don't like Arithon, you won't like the series. Except, apparently there are some people who don't like him and love the series, but I really don't know how that works...!)

Frustration in book-land

[identity profile] ellex42.livejournal.com 2008-03-08 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs you* I know what you mean. I read 'Furies of Calderon', and did enjoy it, but also felt it wasn't up to Butcher's usual excellent standard with the Dresden Files books. The second Calderon book was better, but...yeah, still has issues, mainly with the "wow, I can see where this is going a mile off". Apparently Butcher has always wanted to write high fantasy, and devoured all the classic fantasy novels as a kid. I think there comes a point, for some people, where they are so over-saturated with the best of a genre that they can't manage anything very original when they sit down to write in that genre for themselves.

Buck up, there's another Dresden book coming out in a couple of months.

If you're looking for something good...Robin McKinley has a new book out, "Dragonhaven". Not everyone can take her relentless exposition, but this one is written in first person POV, so it's a bit less dense than her other novels.

Rob Thurman's books really are great - a very different take on the urban fantasy genre.

I see you're a Diana Wynne Jones fan - her new Chrestomanci book, "The Pinhoe Egg", is delightful.

Personally, in the high fantasy genre, the only really original and excellent books I've read in the past year were "The Lies of Locke Lamora" (I'm waiting impatiently for my turn at a library copy of the sequel) and Terry Pratchett's Discworld series, which never disappoints.

I wonder if you've read anything by Lynn Flewelling? The trilogy that starts with "The Bone Doll's Twin" is great. Her "Nightrunner Series" is also excellent, although it's (surprisingly, for published novels) slash. There's very little explicit in it, though, so I'd recommend it for anyone who is willing to read a really good story even when slash isn't generally their cup of tea.

Published novels have been, by and large, so excruciatingly poor in the last few years (I blame the publishing companies. Some of these books have clearly never been past an editor), and there's so much great fanfiction out there, that I'm seriously thinking about getting myself some kind of PDA and putting lots of fanfiction on it. The only time I really get to read is on the bus to and from work, and during lunch at work, so something smaller and more portable than great heavy hardback novels would certainly be nice...
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Re: Frustration in book-land

[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-03-10 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Not a Rob Thurman fan, alas. I gave her first book a try, but it's not my cup of tea. Robin McKinley I've heard good things about, and I spotted one of her books at the used book store with a "Our Staff Recommends!" sticker on it, so I picked it up and added it to the "to read" pile.

And I'd forgotten there was a new Chrestomanci book out! I'll have to get that.

I have read Lynn Flewelling's first Nightrunner book, but I remember being disappointed in it -- I felt like it had all the trappings of what I normally like (the reluctant but growing closeness between the main characters, etc), but it just felt forced, and I hated the history infodumps that we kept getting; it didn't make me want to pick up the next book. I know some people who like the series, though, so maybe I'll give it another chance.

although it's (surprisingly, for published novels) slash. There's very little explicit in it, though, so I'd recommend it for anyone who is willing to read a really good story even when slash isn't generally their cup of tea.

That's an interesting use of the terminology. I'd always considered "slash" to refer only to fanfic where the relationship is not present in the original. I'm not much of a slash fan in general, except with certain pairings, but I love encountering LGBT characters in mainstream fiction, especially genre fiction, and feel as if there aren't nearly enough of them! I'd forgotten about that aspect of "Nightrunner", actually, or maybe it was just so subtle that I didn't pick up on it at all.

Re: Frustration in book-land

[identity profile] ellex42.livejournal.com 2008-03-11 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
At this point, I tend to use slash to refer to any fiction with LGBT main characters. It's just an easy term that most of the people I talk to about books or fanfiction are familiar with.

There's really only a hint in the first Nightrunner book of any potential sexual relationship between the two main characters, and it doesn't really come into play much until the end of the second book, which was definitely a better read. In the third book, they are an established couple, but the relationship and the plot are the main points, with very little actual sex.

I think "The Bone Doll's Twin" and it's sequels are better than the "Nightrunner" series - Flewelling is an author who improves with practice. You might like that better. It's set in the same fantasy world, but takes place much earlier in its history.

Robin McKinley can be something of an acquired taste. Her style tends to be overwhelmingly expository, and that just doesn't work for everyone. Her early novel "Beauty" is a beautiful retelling of the "Beauty and the Beast" fairy tale - I understand the Disney film was actually heavily influenced by it. "Deerskin" is very good. "Sunshine" is great, but also disappointing because it desperately needs a sequel. There was so very much left unexplained or unresolved in that book.

I forgot to mention Sergei Lukyanenko's "Nightwatch" to you. It's the first in an urban fantasy trilogy set in modern-day Russia. It's like nothing I've ever read before. It takes a little while to get into, but the basic concept of two opposing forces that are practically crippled by the ability to foresee the consequences of any action they take is fascinating...they reminded me a little of the Ancients of the Stargate 'verse.

But that's what I've read recently. I've been through a bunch of high fantasy and urban fantasy books at the library based on recommendations from various people and on Amazon, but I've been sadly disappointed for the most part.

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