SGA has its big huge issues with race and gender, but I can believe they're coming from a well-meaning if ignorant place. SPN, though...*ugh*. Need a shower indeed. And everything else, too - the writers' ids are showing in the nastiness of ways.
Yeah; I know that I cut SGA a lot of slack, probably quite a bit more than it deserves, but I still get more of a "well-meaning but cluelessly idiotic" feeling from it, while SPN feels -- well, "malicious" might be too cruel, but like you said, I really do feel as if the writers' ids are hanging out all over the place, and it's not at all pretty, and I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT.
I do feel that my earlier impression of the season has been justified - that we're not meant to be cheering on Dean & Sam wholeheartedly anymore, that we're supposed to be seeing them in shades of gray that are steadily getting darker - but I *miss* cheering them on!
I think you're right, and in a way it's a relief, because I'd been feeling more and more uncomfortable with what I felt was the narrative's insistence on the "rightness" of two increasingly unlikable characters. But, well ... that's what we've got now, two rather unlikable (albeit easy on the eyes. :D) anti-heroes, killing and torturing and generally creeping me the fuck out! I am totally on board with a narrative that explores the darker side of the anti-hero myth-arc and whatnot, but that's something which is really best in small and finite doses. As far as coming back to a weekly show for each installment ... um, no. It's why I've always had trouble psyching myself up to watch BSG, because even though I've heard fantastic things about it, it just looks so dark and depressing ...! I could handle it just fine for the length of a movie or a novel, but I'd really rather not for 20 or 40 hours of TV.
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Yeah; I know that I cut SGA a lot of slack, probably quite a bit more than it deserves, but I still get more of a "well-meaning but cluelessly idiotic" feeling from it, while SPN feels -- well, "malicious" might be too cruel, but like you said, I really do feel as if the writers' ids are hanging out all over the place, and it's not at all pretty, and I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT.
I do feel that my earlier impression of the season has been justified - that we're not meant to be cheering on Dean & Sam wholeheartedly anymore, that we're supposed to be seeing them in shades of gray that are steadily getting darker - but I *miss* cheering them on!
I think you're right, and in a way it's a relief, because I'd been feeling more and more uncomfortable with what I felt was the narrative's insistence on the "rightness" of two increasingly unlikable characters. But, well ... that's what we've got now, two rather unlikable (albeit easy on the eyes. :D) anti-heroes, killing and torturing and generally creeping me the fuck out! I am totally on board with a narrative that explores the darker side of the anti-hero myth-arc and whatnot, but that's something which is really best in small and finite doses. As far as coming back to a weekly show for each installment ... um, no. It's why I've always had trouble psyching myself up to watch BSG, because even though I've heard fantastic things about it, it just looks so dark and depressing ...! I could handle it just fine for the length of a movie or a novel, but I'd really rather not for 20 or 40 hours of TV.